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SCO thrashes on

Shame on me. I was sure that when SCO fired anti-Linux zealot and CEO Darl McBride, that Edward Cahn, the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Court Trustee, would kill off SCO's IBM lawsuit as a waste of money for a company that's been bleeding red-ink for years. I was wrong.

According to a Salt Lake Tribune report, Cahn told U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Kevin Gross that "SCO's claims against IBM and Novell 'should be pursued aggressively.'"

You've got to be kidding me. I predicted that Cahn would want to continue the Novell lawsuit. After all, as it is, no one knows who really owns Unix's intellectual property. Unix's ownership is a big deal. If Novell owns it, then SCO has nothing left of any real value. But IBM? Come on!

We've known, not suspected, known for years that SCO's core copyright claims about IBM copying parts of Unix into Linux aren't true. No one who has read over any of the publicly available evidence thinks otherwise, except for SCO loyalists.

I can only presume that Cahn hasn't really looked at the case. He seems to believe that underneath all of SCO's copyright smoke there had to be some fire. Sorry, there's not even a spark.

But, because the Bankruptcy Court seems sympathetic to SCO and Cahn has said that continuing the IBM lawsuit makes sense, it looks like SCO's anti-Linux lawsuits aren't done yet. Darn it.

The one bit of good news in all this is that Cahn is putting a stop to perhaps the dumbest of all SCO's lawsuits, its suit against that well known software vendor, AutoZone. Now, if only Cahn had done us all a favor and whacked the IBM anti-Linux lawsuit as well I'd be content with this latest Friday court session of As the SCO Turns.

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10 More Years in Bankruptcy?

With this approach SCO may have to remain in bankruptcy until IBM’s countersuit is decided and that would be how long? Another ten years?

SCO v IBM: I wanna kick!

The Appeals Court decision is over and done with, the en banc hearing denied, and a Supreme Court hearing distant and unlikely. What is certain is that absent any proof of impropriety on the part of the court there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.

The fact is that based on this decision Cahn plans to forward with the litigation. It may end up in court, it may end up in another sleazy sealed settlement that satisfies the objectives of the corporations involved but leaves the F/OSS community twisting in the wind.

So why not kick 'em in the nuts?

We know empirically that major corporate players have done code studies and come up with results completely opposite to those claimed in public by SCO. HP offers free indemnification, Red Hat has brought suit stating that Linux does not infringe. IBM has whittled down the "mountain of code" to a handful of lines filed under seal. For whatever reason, none of the corporate interests on either side has actually published the results of a code study. Eric Raymond gave us the Comparator and said he was grinning, but that was all.

There's absolutely no value to the litigation over the ownership of the Unix copyrights if they aren't being infringed. The SCOSource and Linux Licensing scam have no value without proof of infringement. Frankly, what the hell do we care about IBM, Novell, or SCO, other than the claims Darl McBride and his minions and cohorts have made? What better way to prove him a liar than to do a code comparison and publish the results?

I did a quick and dirty blind comparison using a copy of SysV at a local school. By blind I mean I wasn't allowed to actually view the Unix code, and wasn't allowed to even keep the output of the Linux code matches. This was in 2003, late summer or early fall, when the fear of SCO's lawsuit was real. While I couldn't even come close to stating that there was no infringement ( I don't have the qualifications to do so anyway), it was enough to make it clear that the "mountain of code" was pure fabricated nonsense.

For this purpose all that would need to be done would be a comparison of SysVR4 and the current Linux kernel. Let the corporations squabble about the past, I'm concerned with the present and the future.

Surely there is enough expertise here and Groklaw to do this. If no one else is interested, if I should receive a copy of the SysV code in the mail with no return address I would be more than happy to do the grunt work of running the comparison and putting up the results for analysis.

I'm tired of sitting on the sidelines bickering, and waiting for corporations whose interests are only tangentially those of the community to resolve things.

I wanna kick some butt!

clear writing.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would consider an amendment that says copyrights will be transfered if necessary as a clear writing that copyrights are transfered, listing the specific rights that are transfered. That is what SCO was trying to get from Novell when they started this whole mess and Novell said no.

SCO's whole hope hinges on a news report, which was completely outside of any court or official document.

Presently the trustee will be educated.

SCO vs IBM

If I remember properly, Judge Kimball ruled that Novell did have the right to direct SCO to drop the IBM suit. I don't remember that being reversed in the appeal.

Unix family tree

Not too long ago, as part of celebrating 40 years of Unix, Computerworld published a graphic of the Unix family tree. URL:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9133696/The_Unix_family_tree

The Linux lineage is totally stand alone. Funny, but there are no comments to this graphic from Anonymous Insider crying foul.

The Linux lineage is totally stand alone...

Hmmm...

Take a look at this Unix family tree included in a 2003 position paper by Eric Raymond:

www.anonymous-insider.net/advocacy/research/2003/0603.html

Raymond was later employed by IBM as consultant.

Let's wait for SCO to have a fair trial to find out who owns Unix System V copyrights. Then, we'll discuss Unix trees a bit more...

Non answer

You didn't really answer my question. In this very blog's comments Anonymous Insider was questioning Carla Schroder as to her history, and here we had a golden opportunity for Anonymous Insider to tell us where Linux was wrong, and where the family tree should be, and it went by without a response. How do we explain this lack of diligence?

If I'm not mistaken ESR has had an ax to grind against GPL for some time now.

As Groklaw points out again and again, SCO itself actively released a Linux distribution under GPL license. This case reminds me of the scene in the movie "Casablanca" where Rick's is being closed down for gambling while Captain Renault is stuffing his pockets with his winnings.

You're confused!

When did SCO distribute a Linux distribution?Here is a timeline for your convenience:

http://www.skytel.co.cr/unix/sco.htm

I couldn't see a SCO Linux distribution prior to 2001. I'm almost certain that prior to 2001 SCO only sold UnixWare and OpenServer.

There may be some truth to what you wrote when Caldera bought 2 SCO divisions in May 2001. Still, the contested code that went into Linux to fix its scalability wasn't added by Caldera.

It seems to be you began to follow the SCO v IBM case at the same time Pamela Jones from Groklaw did it in 2003. Prior to that, Jones had no clue about Unix and Linux.

You may want to do some serious research to get out of your confusion.

Ok lets play the word games.

Ok lets play the word games. Caldera did have a linux distribution. In 2001 Caldera bought parts of SCO and continued to distribute their linux distribution. Then Caldera changed their name to The SCO Group and still continued to distribute linux even after they started their law suites started.

The old SCO did not have a distribution of their own but did contribute to linux.

Caldera did contribute to linux scalability. They worked on code for multicore systems.

Do some research of your own then come back.

Caldera and Linux scalability

old SCO did not contribute Unix System V code to Linux.

In regard to Caldera and Linux scalability, I don't see Caldera people in this article and photo:

www.anonymous-insider.net/linux-kernel/research/2001/0402.html

Furthermore, it was IBM, not Caldera, that pointed out the parts of the Linux kernel that needed to be fixed:

www.anonymous-insider.net/linux-scalability/ibm.html