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Apple versus Google

27-inch iMac: Best Cinema Display that Apple sells?

There's been a lot of talk about the display on Apple's new 27-inch iMac.  From iFixit's breakdown, we know it is an 11lb. 2560x1440 pixel behemoth made by LG with the model number LM270WQ1.  Before iFixit's breakdown, this display hadn't been mentioned anywhere before. 

The Display in the iMac is likely an Apple exclusive at least until LG can make enough of them to outpace demand for the new 27-inch iMac –which might be awhile.  This exclusive likely stems from Apple's $500 Million investment in LG displays at the begining of the year.

One of the great features of this product is that it can act as a monitor for other Mini DisplayPort Macs (but NOT other VGA, DVI or HDMI devices, even with adapters).

So, are Apple's customers going to buy this thing as a monitor alone?  There certainly is a case for it.  

First of all, I don't consider myself within Apple's target audience for displays and it isn't just that Apple's displays often cost over four times the industry average.  There is much more:

  1. I really, really hate the glare.  Perhaps I could position the display in such a way where the glare isn't so obvious, but to me, it isn't worth my time.  I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone when I hear people say they are fine with the glare!  The glare ruins the experience for me.
  2. I don't need perfect colors that "pop".  I like good color which I've never had problems getting from slightly better than average displays with some tweaking
  3. I do appreciate LED displays that save electricity. 
  4. I am firm believer in a simple formula on displays: More pixels=better. 
  5. I like things like Webcams, USB Hubs, Mics, speakers and SD card readers to be integrated.
  6. As an example, I have an HP 30-inch display for my MacBook with the notoriously unreliable Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI adapter.  Because Apple hasn't addressed the adapter issue, I've recently picked up a Dell 2048 x 1152 Display with Webcam and Microphone for $250.

But clearly, people with extraordinary amounts of money to spend might want this monitor for their Mac Pro workstations or MacBook Pro laptops.

Apple's previously unquestioned high-end monitor is the 30-inch Cinema Display.  However, this product hasn't been upgraded significanly since it was introduced in June of 2004 (over 5 years!).  The price has come down 50% from $3299 to $1799 and it has been upgraded to a brighter back-lighting but the general design has not changed.  It still uses older TFT displays rather than the new LED screens like the iMac.

In fact, the 30-inch Cinema Display doesn't even have a home on Apple's site.  The only place you can find it at Apple.com is the Store

There are two benefits to the 30-inch display however:No high-glare surface and the added pixels of a 16:10 aspect ratio.  The iMac has 2560x1440 resolution while the 30-inch Cinema Display has 2560x1600 pixels.  This means that the iMac has 160x2560 fewer pixels.

Those factors will likely be overshadowed by the iMacs' many new amazing features, not the least of which that there is a Mac inside of it and it costs $100 less than the 30-inch Cinema Display.  The iMac, because it it thin and 3 inches diagonally smaller occupies less space on the users desk - and looks remarkable.  I think this will be most of Apple's display customers.

However, If you don't like the high-gloss™ of Apple's 27-inch iMac or you really want those extra pixels taken from Apple's decision to move from 16:10 to 16:9, the 30-inch display is for you.

Otherwise, you are better of with the cheaper 27-inch iMac.  I think this will be a majority of Apple's display customers.

Again, I'll be over here with my $250 23-inch Dell and 30-inch HP that combined still cost way less than what Apple has on offer.

What People Are Saying

iMac as a display

All this tells me that there will be a refresh of the 30" Cinema Display rsn.

Technology ISP, TFT, LED

The 30" display uses ISP not TFT technology. ISP deliver a greater color gamut and better viewing angle. New Imacs and the 24" display as far as I understand also use ISP, so the display technology is similar with similar benefits, though the newer 24" has higher contrast ratio.

LED is the light source used in the display and has nothing to do with the display technology. Real LED displays, where every single pixel is an LED are still unaffordable at these sizes.

I have the 23" cinema display, it's a great screen for photo and design, I would never switch with a glossy one, but would like to get a 30" version if adapter problems could be fixed.

Twisted terminology :P

All Apple's (and everyone else's for that matter) displays are based on TFT (thin film transistor) technology. This is the standard for LCD screens. I think you are confused with TN (twisted nematic), which is the lesser-quality panel technology.

The superior panel technology is IPS (in-plane switching), not ISP. An ISP provides your internet ;)

You are correct in that the screens are LED-backlit, not LED-pixel.

Excuse the hell outta

Excuse the hell outta me:

"One of the great features of this product is that it can act as a monitor for other Mini DisplayPort Macs (but NOT other VGA, DVI or HDMI devices, even with adapters)."

First of all, that's not "one of the great features", it's a major flaw. And secondly this clearly disqualifies it as a "cinema display", making it at most, and apple fan boy's limited options display.

Mini DisplayPort compliance for "unmac" hosts?

"Anonymous" wrote:

"Excuse the hell outta me:

"One of the great features of this product is that it can act as a monitor for other Mini DisplayPort Macs (but NOT other VGA, DVI or HDMI devices, even with adapters)."

First of all, that's not "one of the great features", it's a major flaw. And secondly this clearly disqualifies it as a "cinema display", making it at most, and apple fan boy's limited options display."

I'm afraid i must concur. However, I am trying to establish a workaround atm. I did not purchase a 27" IMAC in order to simply add it to the ever-growing number (and individual sizes) of the monitors in my "lab". Had quite hoped for the opposite.
Any input on the subject would be most welcome.

Does not compute

"The iMac has 2560x1440 resolution while the 30-inch Cinema Display has 2560x1440 pixels. This means that the iMac has 160x2560 fewer pixels."

Have you considered editing this? I thought the 30-inch was 2560-by-1600.

Okay, you talk about energy

Okay, you talk about energy saving by using LEDs, but can you use this thing as a monitor WITHOUT turning on the computer inside? I mean, if I plugged it into my Mac Pro and found that, in addition to the 8 Xeons drawing like a billion watts, my monitor was running a computer on the side, I wouldn't be too thrilled about my next power bill.

Maybe we'll see a 27" Cinema

Maybe we'll see a 27" Cinema Display at $899 and a price drop on the 24"?

27 inch iMac Display Problems

There have been many reported problems with the new 27 inch displays. Google it.

There have been many

There have been many reported problems with the new 27 inch displays. Google it.