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Seth Weintraub

Apple versus Google

The case for a $149 iPod Touch

The global recession has been hitting the technology market particularly hard these past few months.  Christmas sales across most electronics retailers (besides Amazon) were significantly down and Circuit City is even out of business.  PC sales are down in just about every sector except the bargain-basement Netbook category.

Apple, on the other hand, is faring pretty well.  They had record revenues and profits for their holiday quarter and most market watchers think they'll do pretty well for the current quarter.  Even so, there is that low-priced computing device market that is wide open right now for those who can innovate in that space.

ipod saleMany Apple customers (myself included) really wish Apple would build a Netbook.  I want an Apple Netbook not necessarily for the cheapness, but more for the smallness (though the cheapness wouldn't hurt) and of course to be able to run OSX natively.  Apple has said, again and again, that they can't make a Netbook that would compete in price with the ASUS, Acer and HP's of the world and they'd be proud to produce.  They simply can't get their margins, design and production costs down to the levels that the PC makers can.  Or they choose not to. 

But, when questioned on this, Apple execs always end up pointing to the iPod Touch and iPhone platforms as Apple's answer to the Netbook.  And they really have a great point.  The Touch platform has most of the same capabilities as a Netbook but is cheaper and smaller.

Maybe it is time to step it up in this area.  The 8GB iPod Touch is already a great deal for $200.  But really, the purchase is just the beginning of the customer's relationship with Apple.  Then, there is the iTunes and App store.  While they'd need to sell around $150-$300 of music and apps to break even on a $50-100 price drop, the price point might open Apple up to a whole new level of customer.

Apple operates the AppleTV sales with this model - in the US at least.  They sell the device at around cost and expect to make money through iTunes sales over the next two years.  Why should the iPod Touch be any different in terms of pricing?

A drop in price would spike Apple's share of the handheld gaming market.  Apple doesn't currently need much help getting developers on board, but any on the fence of PSP or Gameboy would develop for Apple first if they sold a $150 'console'.

It wouldn't just be games, all apps would have a bigger audience. Even music and movies would see more sales.  Add a free (come on Apple! $50?) TV connector would open the iPod Touch up as a full screen video player.

But I think this price point would also open the iPod to new types of customers as well.  Value conscious enterprise could even conceivably join in.  Apple already has enterprise deployment kits for iPhone.  iPod wouldn't be much different.  For workers on the go (on company campuses), the iPod makes a great communications device.  Email, Web Browsing, Instant Messaging and even Exchange support are all within a Wifi connection.

With VoIP from Fring or Truphone, they can even function as phones.

With Citrix or VNC, they have a full computer at their fingertips. 

Imagine everyone at a hospital outfitted with an Exchange enabled iPod Touch.  You could stop buying expensive, virus-riddled PCs and outfit everyone from doctors and nurses to administrators to facilities workers with a little wallet sized communications device that can do everything a laptop can do.  Business wouldn't need to buy laptops and phones for employees that didn't need them.

Or what about manufacturing plants or schools and universities?  Airports? Even prison workers could use iPods as communications devices - though you could probably make a pretty dangerous shiv out of a lost iPod touch..

The point is that the iPod Touch hasn't yet even come close to its potential.  It should, but in this market, a price reduction would help it get there much faster. Apple really has a chance to deal the knockout blow to the industry.

What People Are Saying

AV cable

Not only should Apple drop the cost but they should make all screen views available over the A/V cable and not just movies. I'd love to see games on TV and use the Touch as a web browser on my TV.

Touchpad v keyboard

The touchpad v keyboard also makes it a lot easier to disinfect in a hospital environment. Keyboards are notorious germ havens.

My preference would be a design one inch larger in each dimension, creating a much more usable keypad for fat fingers, for only $50 more.

That would still be compact, less money than the popular netbooks, and everything 90 percent of users need when you can easily type short notes on it. I have had a touch for six months, and still dread trying to type on it. Not instead of the $149, in addition ;~}

I have the Gen 1 touch, just

I have the Gen 1 touch, just got the free Pandora app and hooked it up to the home audio system and it streams Pandora via my home wifi like a champ. I have not heard much about using it like a wireless media streaming device. I have not forked out the $$$ for a video cable but I could see other video streaming ideas there. Now if they came out with a keyboard, video and mouse connections it could replace many folks PC's.

Wow. This is rediculous

I was totally thinking about this earlier today.

I can tell you right

I can tell you right now...these things will sell like hotcakes.

They are already blowing up at $220. Apple's seems to be lowering prices on these types of devices as they become more and more commoditized, just like iPhones.

I own a Gen 1 iPod but I am interested in the speaker and the mic in, so I'd definitely buy one of these.

Not quite a convincing argument

Your logic is a bit flawed and one sided.

At an average price of $1.99, Apple would need to sell 150 apps/tracks per new Touch to justify the price cut you are advocating. I don't know about others, but i don't buy that much in a year from the Apple store.

A better argument (but one that you'd still need to proove) is that Apple's price drop would more than double the sales of the Touch without cannibalizing sales of other players. Or, more realistically would it more than treble the sales to compensate for cannibalization.

I am skeptical that the Touch is that price sensitive, nor do I think that Apple really want to be in the business of selling cheap anything - they have tried hard to keep themselves positioned as a premium brand.

FYI - a Marketing 101 lesson is never to ask how cheap people want something - they always want everything for next to nothing, but instead to ask interest at various price points to determine the MOST money the largest number of people would pay. this is value-based pricing.

Ipod Touch

I think that the idea of an Ipod Touch for $150 is a great thing. I am currently in the market for one and feel that the price point is far too high based on the amount of memory that comes with the device. I have approximately 60 gigs of music alone, not to mention video files and movies.
I travel weekly for my job and have been using my moto Z9 to listen to music while on planes and in hotels. It works for now, but i would love to transfer it all to an ipod and use that device as my primary music/entertainment source.
I'm certain that I will eventually break down and buy the 32 gig version, but it sure would ease the pain if Apple would lower the price.

Only 4 months to wait to see

Only 4 months to wait to see what happens then?

If we don't see a GB bump for Touch and iPhone soon, it's potentially more likely for this, plus a price drop come WWDC.