American IT grads unprepared and unemployable: Indian CEO Vineet Nayar

Very Funny.....

The cold blood is turning hot for the people who reads it as it have full filthy racist talks....

IT is a sorry thing for American or Indian Because it the corporates who is making us Fight everywhere.

Let me Tell You all... Corporate is dirty dung.

Think Before You turn on!
Who is He too say or make a racist war on each one of us...

FYI: sadly i am a part of that dung.

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http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,0702-mehta.shtm

not true for my company

As the IT Director for a large US Internet marketing firm, I have to EXTREMELY disagree with this assertion. When I first joined this company, they were using Indian outsourcing and it was a nightmare. Took 10x the time to get simple fixes in place and then when they ran into a snag, they just would ignore it until they were way past deadline and expecting us to pitch out a solution. While this isn't an accurate portrayal of all Indian IT support, I can say that since we went back to domestic employees, the Indians here on visas that we hired made worthless code that I or the other US-born employees had to rewrite. Now, don't get me wrong, there are a lot of lazy and greedy Americans that want to make enormous salaries for coding that is less than esoteric, but the US autodidact is the prime candidate for then jobs. They learned the code out of a love to coding and without a degree, they are eager to show what they know through their work. Organized institutions and universities fail in training people in coding, it is a state of mind more than a formulated curriculum. You can train and train a person in good code, but until it finally snaps in the individual's head, all their code they write is mostly worthless on an engineering level.

Vineet

Well HCL got its start by getting the Indian government to expropriate HP's intellectual property. Then it joined the crowd of off-shorers who have debased programming as an occupation.

Real programming requires someone with high functional awareness of end user needs. Crap programming like India sends us requires meticulously written specs written by non-programmers that are then implemented by people who don't know how a flush toilet works let alone how the supply chain or the order to collection cycle works in a global business. No wonder the result is so pathetic. But American managers get trips to India out of it. Heaven forbid they should pay for real productivity.

Sigh....

1. Indian outsourcers (like HCL) depend on cheap H1Bs to operate profitably in this country.
2. Recent congressional proposals threaten to restrict H1Bs.
3. Indian outsourcers (like HCL) claim Americans aren't qualified.

Surprise, surprise.

Does the truth hurt racists?

Does the truth sting wounded American pride? You Americans behave as if the whole world revolves around you. It does not. Do you realize the rest of the world has not only caught up but is quickly surpassing you?

Take a walk across any engineering campus and how many Americans do you see?

The American students are not interested in taking classes in the hard sciences, they want to talk about Michael Jackson or Britney Spears instead.

Obesity and associated diseases like diabetes are rampant among Americans with their sedentary lifestyle. Yet, such diseases are rare among Indians and other Asian peoples. Why is that?

Hmmmmmmmm???

12% of scientists, 38% of doctors, 36% of NASA, 34% of employees at Microsoft, 28% at IBM, 17% at Intel and 13% at Xerox are Indians.

Racist whiners think they are entitled to a job, ahead of a better qualified Indian, just because they were born in this country.

Heres a suggestion; turn off the TV, stop talking about Michael Jackson or Michael Jordan, and put some effort into upgrading your skills instead of whining about better qualified Indians (or others) "stealing" your jobs.

Lazy Americans

All: I've been doing engineering for 31 years now, and I can definitely say that there are plenty of folks who fit the "lazy" mold, and plenty more who don't. I'm happy to be an American, but that doesn't mean I won't acknowledge our failures. Our biggest problem relative to education is that for the past 40+ years it's been just one more front in the ongoing, never-ending undeclared Cold Civil War between partisans on the left and the right. The folks on the left concluded that they could make school into some kind of weird emotional experience, complete with "self-esteem" training and other stuff, but with no rigorous subjects that might cause folks to suffer shame if they didn't do well (in short sacrificing an entire generation of students to their particular ideology). The folks on the right reacted by finally forcing through more emphasis on standardized tests to try to eliminate this nonsense, and instead created a "teach to the test" mentality. The two sets of partisans remain locked in mortal combat.

It doesn't help that parents, instead of parenting, now try to be their child's friend. That's an improper relationship between a parent and a child. Children can have friends their own age, thank you--let the parents be PARENTS! When this stupidity enters into the relationship between parents and teachers, the situation just goes even further downhill.

The correct mechanical approach is to take the standardized tests, but expand them and personalize them by making the question pool 500,000 questions deep. That way there's absolutely no way to "teach to the test". When that method of teaching fails, folks will have to return to teaching children to discover things as they once did...by thinking through them. Of course, for this to work the overall culture has to return to valuing hard work and discipline, and has to again base "self-esteem" on accomplishment. Not likely to happen as long as self-indulgent folks are busy "getting in touch with their feelings" instead of disciplining themselves to perform the extraordinary things that everyday adults in the "bad old days" prior to about 1970 did every day.

Regards to all.