And then we can test

Unclear on the concept

I had the identical experience when I tried to upgrade JAVA at my old company. Management wanted the appications section to test all of their systems prior to moving the new JAVA into production. BUT. The applications people didn't want to move the new JAVA onto the developement systems as they were doing development on them.

And then we can test.

Sounds like somebody's subscription to Soldier of Fortune has run out.

The old catch-22 of management/application owners/technicians.

Have you ever seen a test vote for President?

Just think of all the money we could save by not testing.
NASA, GM, Chinese imports, etc., etc.
Have you ever seen a test vote for President?
We all know we're smart enough to get the job done right the first time. Testing just lines the pocketbooks of the Project Managers and their lackeys.
You know, I've only made one mistake in my lifetime - that was the time I thought I'd made a mistake - and then found out I hadn't.

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Last job when I was a mere network admin, we had this company code and host our website for us. When IE 7 was released about a year ago, they pulled the brakes and said "hold on! we need to test it out!" and added a piece of code to the site that if an IE 7 customer came, they wouldn't be able to use the site.

Fast forward 3-4 months when the quarterly filings show a 10% revenue loss on website sales. I gave them a deadline - get the site compatible in 2 weeks, or give me the code and I'm finding another vendor. Well, 2 weeks go by and they've made no progress. Something about ASP not functioning the same. Anyways, I showed up at their office with a USB key for the files and a contract termination letter. The secretary stopped me at the entrance and said the president was in a meeting, but I walked right past her. She started to get up and get in my way, so I socked her right in the teeth and she was out. I kicked down the door to the presidents office and he was meeting with 3 fat guys, and a nerd who looked like he just finished a Magic: The Gathering tournament. I screamed the contract with them was terminated, and I wanted the files NOW. One of the fat guys got up, tried to calm me down, and put his arm around me so I elbowed him right in the ribs. The other 2 fat guys got up and came at me, so I socked one in the face and tackled another into a display case. It shattered everywhere and both of us were bleeding. Finally the nerd came at me. I just wound up and POW to the face and he was out. Finally the president was left, who by now was calling security. I charged at him, dived over his desk, and tackled him into his office chair. We started exchanging blows until I grabbed his VoIP phone set and smacked him so hard it gave his face a permanent, static IP. Finally 1 security guard arrived and maced me. I was down, but not out, and as he dragged me outta there I wrecked the place. I kicked holes in the wall, knocked over furniture, and ate peoples lunches out of the fridge. I never got my code, but I beat up like 5 people and caused irreversable mental damage. I'M THE MAN, WHATS UP NOW!?!