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Another "MacBook Air killer" emerges

SANTA BARBARA, CALIF. -- I announced Saturday the arrival of a new category of laptop -- the "MacBook Air killers" -- with the leaked specs of the Lenovo Thinkpad X300. Today I'm back to tell you about the second new system to land in this category: The Portege R500 11J and cheaper R500 11I, the details for which showed up this morning on Akihabara News.

The Portege R500 line, of course, has been around for a while, but the 11J will be "tweaked," presumably to compete more directly with the Air. The best thing about it is HSDPA baked right in. It's also lighter: 1.72 lbs. (compared with 3 lbs for the Air).

Interestingly, both Toshiba and Apple claim their own laptop is thinnest in the world. Who is right? Well, that depends on your religious affiliation. The Toshiba is thinner at the thickest point, but the Apple is thinner at the thinnest point. The Air tapers more radically, all the way down to .16 -- and is probably thinner "on average." However, laptop thickness is conventionally measured at maximum thickness, so if you accept this measure then the whole R500 line is thinner than Air.

The bottom line on relative thickness between the two lines is: Who cares? They're both really, really thin, and that's not going to be a factor if you're considering one or the other.

In fact, when you're comparing specifications between MacBook Air and other slim laptops, the Air doesn't stand out at all. Mobile Magazine published a nice table comparing specs on the Air and a smattering of other thin notebooks, which includes the old Portege R500 line but does not include the new Lenovo Thinkpad X300.

The first decision, of course, is Mac OS X or Windows (yeah, I know, you can run Windows on a Mac -- most people won't). The second decision is: elegant or functional? Third is price. And way down on the list is going to be thickness and weight for most buyers.

Here are the specs on the The Portege R500 11J, courtesy of Akihabara News:

Portégé R500-11J

-Price: $3,620

-Intel® Centrino® Duo with Intel® CoreTM2 Duo Ultra Low Voltage U7600 (2 Mb Cache, 1.20 GHz, 533 MHz FSB), Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945ABG network connection and Intel® 945GMS Express chipset

-Windows Vista® Pro

-12.1" WXGA Transflective LED (1,280 x 800)

-64 Go SSD (Solid State Disk)

-2 Gb (2x1Gb) DDR2 (667 MHz), up to 2gb, one slot available

-No optical drive

-Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950, up to 256MB shared

-TouchPad

-Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000)

-Wi-FiTM (802.11 a/g/n), Bluetooth, 3G+

-283 x 215.8 x 19.5/ 25.5 mm, 779 grams

-1 year international warranty

 

Portégé R500-11I

Price: $2,970

-Intel® Centrino® Duo with Intel® CoreTM2 Duo Ultra Low Voltage U7600 (2 Mb Cache, 1.20 GHz, 533 MHz FSB), Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945ABG network connection and Intel® 945GMS Express chipset

-Windows® XP Pro

-12.1" WXGA Transflective LED (1,280 x 800) monitor

-120 Gb (5400 rpm) S-ATA

-2 GB (2x1Go) DDR2 (667 MHz) RAM, up to 2GB, one slot available

-DVD Super Multi Ultra-slim

-Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950, up to 256 MB shared

-TouchPad

-Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000)

-Wi-FiTM (802.11 a/g/n), Bluetooth, 3G+

-283 x 215.8 x 19.5/ 25.5 mm, 999 grams

-1 year international warranty

What People Are Saying

MacBook Pro 12-inch

All good things to those who wait. MacBook Pro 12-inch
http://mbp12.com

Apple's changed strategy

I've noticed over the last few years that my tastes have grown with Apple's design - the 1998 iMac was exactly what my 9 year old self wanted and then later the Powerbook G4 was perfect and the MacBook Pro didn't make a mistake - the only thing that stops me buying a MacBook Pro 17 is my own lack of funds.

I own one of the first iPod Nanos (mine was not faulty), I thought the iPod styling worked best in that size factor and decided that this was a good time to move to iPods. I didn't want to use the iPod mini because I felt it looked less professional and I didn't replace my nano with a 2G or a 3G for that exact reason, it became too mainstream for a teenage boy's tastes.

Just think about that.

I'm praying Apple does not shift from the metal pro series too dramatically, and I'm not going to go out and kill for the rounded tapered edges of the Air and the iPod. I would like the professional, mature look for a device which I am willing to spend thousands of pounds on and be using for a considerable amount of time. I won't be buying an Air because it doesn't necessarily fit my requirements for a computer at that price point, I'd like a computer I can use as my primary for ~£3000 please.

New Math: 25.5mm < 19.4mm?

Last I checked, 19.4mm (Air's thickest point) was less than 25.5mm (Portege's thickest).

I find it interesting that

I find it interesting that this so-called "Air Killer" is more expensive than the Air, shares many of its features, though lacking the Air's sleek design. All this proves to me is that this category of laptop still has a long way to go before I will even think of buying one. Touch screen features, a tablet interface, mobile phone capability, solid state drives as standard, and price are the areas that are going to have to be satisfied before the Air and its competitors make any headway in the marketplace -- and with me.

Nice Bias

Sooo .... these two "killers" ... have smaller screens and slower processors than the MacBookAir??

Why not be fair in your comparison, you go on to talk about size and weight when really its irrelevant. The only relevant fact is comparing the Portégé R500-11I which contains the 120gbHD and a built in optical drive (which i tend to agree with apple that that isnt a BIG issue anyway)

$3,000 Apple better than a $3,000 lemon.

After having worked with both Apple and PC (Dell, HP,etc) products, I think it is fairly safe to bet on Apple as the better producer of high-end devices.

It's the OS

I have two Vista computers (1 Dell laptop, the other an HP desktop). I spend inordinate time waiting and waiting. I've had to reload Vista several times on the HP.

So, these other companies can make their notebooks thin as air, the bottom line is they run a broken operating system. I'm sure Leopard's not perfect, but where I work the guy with the least problems has a MacBook. The guys with brand-new Dells spend hours restarting and cursing these things.

Hardware Always Comes Before Software

Dan said, "The bottom line is they run a broken operating system" and Dan's comment (imo) "hit the nail on the head."

My XP PRO system (games) ran fine until the 1st major Microsoft XP update and it took until the 2nd major update to get them back to working like they did before the 1st update and Microsoft got a lot of free debugging information during that time. My major gripe is the length it takes to fix broken software and here is where I have to give Apple a plus.

OS X wasn't perfect from the start, but Apple seems to fix it more quickly.

Here is a bit of history you may enjoy and I checked the source and there are no advertisements or 'cgi stuff' and here is one paragraph:

"As it turned out, DEC sent a bunch of folks to Redmond and (imo) an incredible 64-bit NT was built; however, the only people who saw this were the folks who participated with Microsoft development, and I did get a copy of "beta 3". (fwiw) I ran this 64-bit NT-5 for ten (10) years and only saw 3 BSODs (Blue Screen of Death), which were due to an overloaded disk."

http://www.flyingsnail.com/Scrapbook/page013.html

Its funny to see these posts

Its funny to see these posts that say "I upgraded and it don't work" I have upgraded all 5 systems in my home, all very different and not a single issue other than a sound driver that was easily fixed with a visit to the MB manufacturer website. The other 4 went seamless and I have had ZERO compatibility with externals like scanner, printers, camera, camcorders, PED card readers etc. It makes me wonder the validity of the complaints about "I couldn't make it work" or "It is just broken"

Its a huge step in the right direction both for security and for visual astetics, and while I did upgrade ram in 3 of the 5 systems, it was a cheaper upgrade for me than Windows 95 was.

Nice use of 'Banal Headline'

I do like how you link back to your own article from just last week where you predict...

"It's time to brace yourself for a year of banal 'MacBook Air killer' headlines"

... and then proceed to fulfil your own prediction with a banal headline, "Another 'MacBook Air killer' emerges"

What a delicious sense of irony - or of the absurd, I am not sure which just yet.