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Is Apple subsidizing the $70 Apple TV price reduction by taking a cut of movie rentals?

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At Macworld, Steve Jobs announced that, along with all of the new features of Apple TV, Apple was reducing the price of the device significantly. The world rejoiced. The problem is that only the US and Canada got price reductions. In the UK, Apple TVs saw no price drop - they still cost the equivalent of $400. France is only slightly less expensive and still at their pre-Macworld prices. Why did the US version price drop from $299-$399 to $229-$329 while the rest of the world still has to pay the same price for Apple TVs? The margins are already uncharacteristically low for Apple, how can they cut $70 more?

Apple is subsidizing the cost of the Apple TV hardware with movie rentals.

 

In this model, Apple is taking "a bit off the top" - as Tony Soprano would say - and adding it to the Apple TV's bottom line. This is similar to the iPhone, whose revenue is also derived from outside sources (the Mobile carriers - AT&T, Tmobile, Orange and O2).

To be fair, Apple isn't just subsidizing Apple TV hardware. They also have to pay for the infrastructure to distribute content and the bandwidth from Akamai - in which I believe they used to be part-owners. That isn't cheap. They also take a cut from the iTunes music and TV shows for this purpose.

Cost of Apple TV from June 2007- Jan 2008 from Gizmodo

Of course, the exact amount that Apple pulls from the studios is a secret. I would guess that it is about $1 - $2 per movie. At that rate, it would only take Apple 35 - 70 movie rentals per device on average over the course of the two years to recoup the cost of the Apple TV price reduction. Not to mention that Apple also sells and profits from TV shows which can also be enjoyed on the Apple TV.

The aggressive margins on TV content could very well be why NBC Universal dropped its iTunes relationship last year (talks are resuming to get them back on Apple TV) and why it took so long to get all of the studios signed up for movie rentals.

Until Apple made the Apple TV a stand-alone device earlier this month, the accounting would be blurry because the content would have had to be purchased through iTunes, on a computer. Now, Apple can see how much content is being purchased directly by the devices and can account for the difference.

For its part, Apple is offering the consumer a fantastic deal by cutting the price of the hardware on the assumption (but not obligation like the iPhone) that consumers will use the device in a way that brings Apple more revenue. The movie rentals and TV shows are such a compelling value that I think Apple will have no trouble breaking even on the price drop.

And if the experiment works, our friends in Europe and around the world should also see similar price drops on the Apple TV.

 

Update: If you are joining us from John Gruber's Daring Fireball, I see that he's skimmed the article and called it the "dumbest question of the week". I've respected his work for years but I think he just doesn't have this one right. The point is the SUBSIDIZING Apple TV... Of course Apple deserves a cut of the products they sell. Also Valleywag, Gizmodo, Macrumors, and Mac Daily News among others have picked up this story and may have made it easier to understand for Mr. Gruber and his readers...

What People Are Saying

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Exporting Apple TV into Australia for $$$

Hey I'm in Australia and the Apple TV is double the equivalent price in the US. If anyone in the US is interested in making some money and importing them into Australia, send me an email at rgmg73 (at) hotmail dot com and we can talk!

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?? Not Much Inside That Brain

When did Apple say they were not selling movies to make some profit, and why would you expect them not to make some money? What kind of boneheaded assumption is this?

You build a store, it's expected to make money (in this country at least). Even with the slim profits the iTunes store makes, they're entitled to make some money, especially when the buying experience is for the most part superior to the competition (at least with web-based services).

I think they've been pretty upfront about the software business being a loss leader for the hardware business. In this case, it may be the other way around so Apple can jump start this "hobby" business into a real profit center. If they can start selling the things in volume, then the cost comes down (the features go up), and you end up with the regular iTunes model where the content is helping sell the hardware, not vice versa.

But I'm not sure what your point was...

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Why are so many people getting the stupids?

Apple has stated previously something to the effect of iTS music sales not being a profit center, rather a driver for iPod sales. In light of that and assuming all these figures to be accurate, this story is relevant in that it marks a reversal of the previous business model.

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These numbers from iSuppli

These numbers from iSuppli are bogus. Check your sources. They are really from iSuppli - but you can't trust them more than the crack dealer on the corner. Digg up some real numbers and then you'll see they aren't subsidizing anything.

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Wow, there are a lot of

Wow, there are a lot of microdick people in here that enjoy putting people down. In case you are to mouth-breathin' retarted to figure out the gist of the story, it is that Apple is SUBSIDIZING the costs of the AppleTV - not that Apple is making money off of movies.

If you had jobs, you would probably know that this is a big deal in the industry. Congrats on getting your lame comments past the spam filter.

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Let me get this straight...

You get *paid* to write this stuff? Or maybe you do it for free, you know, like a public service or something?

Crap, I've already sent your page hit count up higher than it needs to be. Good night.

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Thanks for visiting.

Thanks for visiting.

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ya think?

BREAKING STORY: Apple is profiting off of their iTunes movie rentals!

IN OTHER NEWS: Water is wet, the sky is blue and Seth Weintraub is failing at life.

FIlm at 11.

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You managed to miss the

You managed to miss the point of the whole article. Thanks for your valuable input.

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Maybe you should reconsider...

A lot of people seem to question your point. I've linked to my thoughts on your article, since trackbacks seem to be disabled.