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Seeing Through Windows

Battle of the betas: Firefox 3 beats IE8

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I've put the latest betas of Firefox 3 and IE8 to the test, and the results are clear: Firefox 3 is the superior browser. Its new features make browsing the Web easier, faster, safer, and easier to customize --- and the memory leak problem seems to have been fixed. IE8, on the other hand, offers some flashy new tools, but for everyday browsing, Firefox remains superior. Here are details and screenshots.

You'll notice the most obvious change to Firefox as soon as you load it --- it has a more modern-looking upper left corner with icons for forward, back, reload, and stop. The forward and back buttons now have a 3D chiseled look, bringing what had been a tired-looking 2D interface into the modern age, as you can see below. (Note: I reviewed the Vista version.)

Firefox 3 interface

Unfortunately, though, the Home icon has been moved from Navigation toolbar to the Bookmarks toolbar. That means that if you're someone, like me, who doesn't use the Bookmarks toolbar, you'll no longer have access to your Home button. Let's hope this changes; that doesn't make much sense.

In Firefox 3, the Navigation toolbar has been significantly powered up. There is now a star icon on the far right hand of the address bar; click it and you'll bookmark the site you're currently visiting. When you bookmark the site, or visit a site you've already bookmarked, the star is gold; otherwise it is grey. To edit the bookmark, for example, to change its folder, add tags, and so on, click the star after it's turned gold, as you can see below.

Firefox 3 bookmark

Also useful is a new security feature tied to the Address bar. Click the favicon of the site you're visiting on the leftmost side of the Address bar and you'll be told whether the site you're currently visiting has been "verified" using its Extended Validation (EV) SSL certificate. Only some sites use this, so it's only moderately useful. However, some e-commerce sites, such as PayPal, do use it, and that's where it comes in handy. You can see the screen below.

Firefox 3 security

Click the More information button that appears when you click the favicon, and a tabbed dialog box pops up, allowing you to get a great deal of information about the current site, and customize how you browse it. You'll be told whether you've visited the site before, whether it uses cookies, whether you have a password on the site, and so on --- and be able to view the cookies and passwords. You can see the screen below.

Firefox 3 security

Big news is that Firefox 3 seems to be faster than Firefox 2, and the memory problem may have been licked. With Firefox 2, the longer you browse, the more memory the browser uses, and the slower it becomes. I haven't found that to be the case with Firefox 3.

There are a lot of other useful features in Firefox 3, such as a beefed-up Download Manager (see screenshot below) that lets you search through downloaded files, that will resume broken downloads, and that integrates with your anti-virus software so that it check for viruses right within the manager.

Firefox 3 download manager

Why Firefox 3 beats IE8

As I've written in Five things you'll love (or hate) about IE8, IE8 includes some nifty new features, such as WebSlices, which is like RSS on steroids. (See screenshot below.) But WebSlices will only be useful if developers write them, and it's not clear that will happen.

Webslices ie8
Another nice new IE8 features are Activities (screenshot below), which powers up the Internet Explorer right-click menu. Hover your mouse over an item, or highlight the item, and right-click and a list of actions appear, such as mapping the highlighted term, translating it, defining it, and so on. Depending on the choice you make, you may see a preview screen of your action right on the Web page, such as displaying a small map. This is quite useful, but again, only useful if a whole ecosystem of services springs up around it. And again, it's not clear whether that will happen.

Activities ie8

The bottom line is that Firefox 3's new features are aimed at making everyday browsing better and simpler, while IE8's are peripheral to the browsing experience. So Firefox 3, not IE8, is my next-generation browser of choice. I'm guessing that it will be yours as well.

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What People Are Saying

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Rated +6
16 Votes

People still use the Home button??

Does anyone over the age of 4 actually still use the "Home" button anymore? It's a lot easier to just use the keyboard instead: Alt+Home keys.

I get rid of as many of those annoying buttons as is possible.

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376 Votes

I tried out the FF3 and

I tried out the FF3 and loved it's improved speed. After using it for 2 weeks without problems I went back to FF2 because 2 of my favorite extensions aren't compatible withe FF3 yet, tab mix plus and Real Player's downöoad tab. When these become available in FF3 I'll definitely upgrade to it again.

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391 Votes

i did not used ff3 yet but

i did not used ff3 yet but as far as i know
u can customize the icons in ff2.
u have said about the home icon. is that true that it cannot be moved were u like it?
in ff2 i am able to put any buttons in any tool bar i like.
thanks...

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442 Votes

You needed a review?

O.K., well maybe, maybe not.

One is by Microsoft the other is not. Guess which one is better?

Go ahead...guess.

Goodbye Dancing Monkey Boy

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Rated +27
475 Votes

Something that keeps being ignored..

If I run the latest version of Opera, Safari, Firefox, etc. on a Windows 2000 system, it works!
IE7 doesn't, much less IE8.

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Rated -19
485 Votes

IE is p88p

>> Microsoft Sucks
>> Submitted by David Blomstrom
>> on March 11, 2008 - 8:24 P.M.

It =does= suck.

>> For me, there was never any contest.
>> I gave up on Microsoft long ago.

I bought a PC last year - I wish Ubuntu was ready for prime time.

As for IE... if you stick wings on a t*rd - it's not going to fly. It's as simple as that.

Avoid IE 8. And use something better.

>> Viva Firefox!

Indeed.

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514 Votes

IE8 - a poor attempt at reconciliation

As a web developer I have to say that M$ releasing a beta and making it out as if its somehow some great gift that theyre delivering to developers is a crock.

For years Microsoft has been a law unto themselves, and the reality is they still are! This is a systemic problem at Microsoft, and is visible in every area of their business. The quicker we get users off any version of IE the better. Imagine that, a world wide web with faster development, better standards, more enjoyable experiences, not to mention no more IE hacks!!

For too long M$ has plagued the web, an unstable and buggy IE8 beta doesn't make up for years of negligance and ignorance.

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549 Votes

Beta 4 vs Beta 1?

You got to keep some things in mind. Don't forget that IE8 and Firefox are in different stages of beta. You can't really compare a product in its 4th beta version (or whatever you call it, sorry for the lack of jargon) to one that's only in its first. Also keep in mind that IE8 was specifically released for "web developers, web developers, web developers" (Thanks Steve Ballmer!) So features that did come with this beta are mostly FOR the developers, not the typical end user. Those features, I hope, will come in later versions as hinted by Ballmer.

Admittedly, Beta 1 of Firefox worked better than the IE8 equivalent.

I am both a IE ad FF user, only favoring IE due to its looks and because it integrates best with other Microsoft products. But I salute Microsoft for what IE8 stands for... a change from the old arrogant stance on Web standards and subsequently the developer.

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446 Votes

You also got to keep in mind

You also got to keep in mind then that it is version 3 beta 4 against version 8 (!!!!) beta 1. Microsoft had about twice as much development time on their browser than Mozilla had.
The difference is that Mozilla didn't start reinventing the wheel by screwing around with established standards. It took Microsoft eight release versions and massive law suits against them to get them to finally adapt to W3C standards.
If it wasn't for Firefox Server 2008 would still ship with IE6.

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Rated -4
560 Votes

Microsoft Sucks

For me, tbere was never any contest. I gave up on Microsoft long ago.

I began using Firefox and Opera on my PC, abandoning Internet Explorer. More recently, I finally abandoned MIcrosoft entirely, getting a Mac.

Now I have three good browsers to choose from - Safari, Firefox and Opera. Firefox was my default browser, though I recently switched to Opera.

But even if I was still on a PC, I wouldn't waste much time on IE8. I've simply learned that Microsoft stinks. Bill Gates ALWAYS finds a way to scr*w people. It's just a matter of figuring out what his angle is or spotting the clever technology he's using to hose his own customers.

In summary, this article tends to confirm what most informed people already knew: That Internet Explorer can't easily catch up with the compeition. But even if IE8 was as good as Firefox and Opera, I still wouldn't use it for socio-political reasons alone.

I know, most geeks don't care about such things. We aren't even allowed to discuss politics on technical forums. But, believe it or not, there are still a few people who care about ethics - and Bill Gates isn't one of them.

Gates gets most of the credit for turning MIcrosoft into a continuing public relations disaster, whose latest stars include Vista and Zune. IE8 may not be as bad, but it won't be enough to resurrect a failed empire.

Web designers should take charge of their profession by informing their visitors of the differences between browsers and promoting quality browsers. A little attitude wouldn't hurt, either.

Viva Firefox!