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Seeing Through Windows

Changes to UAC in Vista SP1: Much less than meets the eye

A video is making the rounds showing how Vista SP1 has significantly improved Vista's immensely annoying User Account Control (UAC). But there appears to be less to the improvement than meets the eye --- hardly any changes were made to UAC in SP1, and it remains a very big Vista annoyance.

Microsoft blogger Michael Kleef has made a video that he says illustrates how much better UAC is under SP1 than before SP1. It very nicely shows that when you create a new folder in Program Files, you only need to go through one UAC prompt under Vista SP1, rather than four previously.

That's certainly an improvement. But it affects very few people. That's because for creating new folders, UAC only springs into action when you create a folder in a protected location, such as Program Files. Create a folder anywhere else, and there's no UAC prompt. And it's rare that you'll create a folder in a protected location.

So what other changes were there to UAC? I've been using SP1 since it was released, and I haven't noticed a single difference. So I nosed around the Microsoft site, and found a document that described the changes to Vista under SP1.

There's hardly any mention of UAC. The document does note the change when creating a folder:

SP1 reduces the number of UAC (User Account Control) prompts from 4 to 1 when creating or renaming a folder at a protected location.

But then there's only one other change it lists:

Windows Vista SP1 includes a new Security Policy (UAC: Allow UAccess), which allows applications to prompt for elevation without using the secure desktop. This allows a remote helper to enter administrative credentials during a Remote Assistance session.

How many times in your life do you expect this "improvement" to affect you? If you're like many people, the answer may well be zero.

So despite the hype, UAC in SP1 remains perhaps the most annoying feature of all time. I hope we don't have to wait for Windows 7 for it to get fixed.

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What People Are Saying

Fix UAC?

You can't fix something that isn't broken. It works in the way Microsoft intended and has proven quite effective.

Damned if they do...

As always Microsoft is damned if they do and damned if they don't. For years they were slammed by tech columns that blamed Microsoft for end users ignorance of threats. Now they are taking BS for having some prompts.

Yes it can be annoying. Think about the bigger picture. Unix and Linux has required root authentication to install anything in the system or even to do minor tasks.

Think of it as a dummy light for all those non tech folks that don't have a clue. It will help a little and many will still blindly click OK without thinking of any consequence of doing so. Just as many never install AV.

UAC - Try Linux

I tried to do something requiring administrative privelige in Ubuntu. I not only got a prompt but had to type my password too... This is more irritating than Vista asking me if it is OK.

We have been allowed too much power in the past by having administrative privelige for everyone and then complained when the OS did not protect us. Now that it does stop your whining or else it will be turned off and more bad things will happen to our machines because by default you have admin privelige...

Uninstall UAC in SP2

If they want to improve UAC - give an option of uninstalling it - not just disabling it. Disable it and you get an annoying nag that your system isn't secure and you need to enable it. Give an option of uninstalling it and you'll have the best UAC feature yet.

And your solution is...?

If you want it fixed, provide some constructive criticism on how it can be done.

This is a problem that many people say 'needs to be fixed.' Since you appear to know how to do this, I suggest you catalog all the possible tasks in Explorer (alone!) and document which ones you feel should involve UAC prompts when accessing protected system locations. Until you come up with a flow diagram illustrating ALL the possible tasks, and how you propose this 'nuisance' should be fixed, reports like these are just hot air.

I use Vista daily and I am not bothered by these UAC prompts. I rarely see them.

UAC

this will stop the nags and leave you protected.

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/06/dont_shut_off_v.html