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Seeing Through Windows

Do Linux users pay a "Microsoft tax?"

Steve Ballmer recently caught flack for essentially saying that Apple users pay an Apple tax of $500 for buying Macs compared to PCs. Does that mean that Linux users are forced to pay a Microsoft tax every time they buy a PC with Microsoft software on it?

As I wrote in my blog yesterday, Steve Ballmer claims that when people buy a Mac rather than a PC, they're spending $500 extra, just for a logo on the machine. Ballmer was a bit hyperbolic --- the price difference is generally between $300 and $500, but he essentially was on target.

Given that most people use their computers mainly for Web browsing, sending and receiving email, listening to music, watching videos, and creating and editing documents, there's not much of a difference between what they do on a PC versus a Mac. So I call the price difference between Macs and PCs an "Apple tax."

One commentor on my blog said Ballmer was being hypocritical, because Linux users are generally forced to pay a "Microsoft tax" when they buy hardware, because major vendors don't sell Linux-based desktops, and so the price of Windows is included when you buy a new PC. Linux users then wipe the hard disk, and install Linux.

I think he's right -- if you want Linux and have to buy a Windows-based PC on which to install it, you're paying a Microsoft tax. That tax, though, isn't nearly as costly as the Apple tax.

How much is the tax? To know that, you need to know how much Microsoft charges PC makers for Windows, and neither Microsoft nor the PC makers are talking. However, the number is most likely between $60 and $100 on desktops and laptops, according to what I've been able to find out. The figure for netbooks is likely far lower.

No one likes to pay extra for hardware, and in an ideal world, it would be easy to buy a bare machine on which you can install your own operating system. But we don't live in that world, and so Linux users generally have to pay the under-$100 Microsoft tax for desktops and laptops, although they can forgo the taxt on netbooks because Linux is widely available on them. The money isn't a bank breaker, and pales next to the $500 Apple tax for some Macs. Still, it would be good if there were a simple way for Linux fans to buy PCs without operating systems and avoid paying the tax.

Update: If your'e a Windows user, you may be paying a Microsoft tax, as I write in a new blog entry.

What People Are Saying

http://www.freegeek.org is a

http://www.freegeek.org is a place that builds PCs with Ubuntu on them and donates them to people for FREE.

I did.

I paid a Windows tax on my last PC purchase, a machine bought at a local Wal-Mart in 2006. But rest assured, now that my XP license is safely preserved as a Windows VM (Virtualbox), I'll never do so again.

The RIAA pi$$ed me off to a similar degree. They haven't made a nickel off of me in ten years. Now, add Microsoft.

interesting....

very nice info thanks!!!!

keep working like that

Reality check

I disagree that there is any sort of Microsoft tax on buying a new computer from anywhere. In my experience, I've seen more linux users resize partitions on Big OEM computers to enable dual booting. Why? For interoperability (probably for work or school) or to play that game that _chokes_ linux.

I can understand all too well a desire to use FOSS - isn't that why a lot of us (the ones who post here) have Open Office and a lot of other free software installed regardless of the OS we have chosen to be our primary workspace?

The vicious ranting of linux users is the downfall of that OS (and I've got my verb tense correct, by the way).

For one laptop, the Vista tax was $220

At least one major vendor does sell machines with Linux (Ubuntu) preloaded. By taking their Ubuntu laptop offering, and specifying exactly the same machine using their Vista-defaulted configurator, I found a price difference of $220 at the time I checked. Similar checks since have produced differences of $190 and $225 since.

LMAO!!! Did the author of

LMAO!!! Did the author of this article just apologise away the Microsoft tax Linux users have to pay just to get PC hardware from a well know company big enough to back up the guarantee?

Looks like it to me.

If it's wrong to pay a tax for boutique systems like Macs then it's wrong to pay a tax to Microsoft. Lets not be making excuses here for anybody.

The idea for bare bones systems is one of the most popular over on Dells IdeaStorm.com web site. Dell who "Recommends Windows Vista", but never ever deployed it on it's own internal company PCs, wriggled out of delivering on that idea because it would supposedly cost them too much to change the production process.

How much would it cost not to install any software on a PC? Basically miss out a whole chunk of the production process.

One way to escape any of the

One way to escape any of the "taxes" is to build your own PCs. There are plenty of online outlets that sell parts and are in fierce competition. That way one can shop around and mix and match much better than a systems vendor like Dell or HP. And one can really stay on budget by using parts that are already available (case, power supply, drives) or that are refurbished / used. Rather than to throw out the entire system improvements can be made gradually.
And for someone who is capable of mastering Linux plugging a few pieces of hardware together should be trivial.

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Dude you do know that installing or even just running Linux these days is as simple as booting from a CD and clicking on an icon once the live distro boots up right?

It's no harder than watching a DVD with a DVD player. Pop in the disc and press play.

yeah, right....

I found it a hard way that on average Macs are cheaper than PCs with Windows (compare by specs) and PTO is even more cheaper for Macs.
I am 2004 switcher - never looked back on PC World again.
Just a thought

Microsoft Tax...

This fact that you cannot get a PC is a business decision by the vendors - evidence in the past has indicated that Microsoft does arm twisting to make this so. It may not be fair but that is the way it is currently.

But you can "vote with your feet" so to speak by not buying from a vendor that will not give you a PC without Microsoft. When I purchased my last two PC's I got the exact same Dells for myself and my wife, one with XP and one with no OS - she wanted Windows and I use Linux.

Shop around for a vendor who sell without Microsoft or build the system yourself.