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Five reasons why the H-1B visa cap will increase

Two bills were introduced this week to raise the H-1B visa cap. They follow Microsoft Corp. Chairman Bill Gates' visit to Washington and his push for a H-1B cap increase. The opposition faces a daunting task in challenging the push to increase the H-1B visa.

H-1B proponents in Congress acted quickly to take advantage of the attention Gates brought to the issue. U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) introduced legislation Friday that would retroactively increase the 2008 visa cap to 195,000, as well as set that level for the fiscal year, 2009, that begins Oct. 1. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Arz.) introduced legislation the same week to increase the cap to 130,000 a year. The current cap is set at 65,000, with an additional 20,000 for holders of advance degrees.

Here are five reason why opponents face a very difficult, if not impossible task, in stopping a visa cap hike:

One: H-1B opponents have no clout

If H-1B visas weren’t part of the larger immigration reform issue in Congress, the H-1B cap would have been increased long ago. The opponents have been piggybacking on the broader immigration debate and they know it. But the H-1B opposition is in decline even as the debate grows more intense. Five years ago, tech workers in Connecticut – many working or connected to the financial services industry (the first industry to really embrace offshoring) – organized a lobbying group, the Organization for the Rights of American Workers (TORAW). By 2003, Connecticut's congressional reps had introduced several bills – all affecting the H-1B issue. The legislation went nowhere, but Connecticut tech workers proved that an organized effort can have impact. It’s all part of history now. TORAW has disbanded, out of money and members. The broader base of opponents are alert, well connected and can fire off thoughtful, well researched emails to lawmakers at an instant, but TORAW is illustrative of the anemic state of the opposition. Opponents lack lobbying muscle in Washington.

Two: The Gates effect

Bill Gates is, obviously, a powerful proponent of the H-1B visa. But where is the opposition’s star power? Lou Dobbs isn’t it. The Programmers Guild has been effective in raising issues, but the real heavy weight organization, with true lobbying ability, is the IEEE-USA, and it has scaled back its opposition to H-1B visas. This group has staked out a position focused on visa reform and improving access to permanent residency, the Green Cards. The IEEE-USA was once more direct about the impact of the H-1B visa: In 2004, when the cap was scaled back to 65,000 the IEEE-USA pointed out: The number of unemployed U.S. high-tech professionals dropped sharply from the first quarter of 2004 to the third quarter. The decline mirrors the reinstatement of the H-1B visa cap to its historical level of 65,000 in Fiscal Year 2004 from 195,000 in FY 03. That was a strong message to send to Congress. But the IEEE-USA also represents many academic institutions that depend on the H-1B visas. Although universities are exempted from the cap, foreign enrollments may suffer if students feel they have little chance of remaining in the U.S. longterm. Universities also have strong ties to tech companies. It is probably safe to say that the IEEE-USA, as an organization, is getting pulled in different directions.

Three: There is grass root support for the H-1B visa

A major use of H-1B visas is to help facilitate offshore outsourcing and even in this downturn outsourcing will continue to grow. That’s the broad outlook by industry analysts. The pressure for visas remains. But the H-1B visa has a very broad, grass root constituency that extends beyond the tech sector. In the 2007 fiscal year, nearly 20,000 companies, academic institutions, hospitals, public schools and others received only one H-1B visa. These organizations send emails as well.

Four: The H-1B lottery is a big problem for tech firms

The forecasted demand for H-1B visas is going to force the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS) to hand out visas via a random lottery for the fiscal year 2009 that starts Oct 1. For the 2008 fiscal year, the USCIS received more than 123,000 visa petitions in two days for the 65,000 cap. Despite that number, the odds were still good that a petition would be approved in its lottery. The USCIS put all those visa petitions in a hat and selected about 100,000, rejecting the rest. The selection process works like college admission: The USCIS accepts more petitions then it has slots and expects a certain number of these applications to be withdrawn or disqualified. But this year there seems to be broad consensus that the number of visa petitions will exceed last year's total, and companies may face visa odds of two-to-one or higher. This makes the outlook for getting a visa very unpredictable and unacceptable to tech groups, which are now pushing for a cap increase with special urgency. But here is an important point to keep in mind: The people who receive visas under the 65,000 cap are more likely to only have a bachelor degree. They are the worker bees. The U.S. has a separate H-1B visa cap of 20,000 for foreign nationals who graduate with advance degrees from U.S. universities. But there was no lottery for these graduates because there was no sudden rush in demand. The USCIS filled those petitions on a first-come, first serve basis until April 30 that year. That may change this year.

Five: Congressional support for visa

Lawmakers have moved the cap up and down before and they will do it again. Congress will increase the cap this year or next and may make it retroactive as well. Had an immigration bill been approved last year the cap would have been 115,000. The open question is whether the H-1B visa will be reformed as part of a cap increase. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) last year pushed for a reform that set a limit on how the visa is used. One rule set a limit that no more than 50 percent of the U.S.-based employees at a company using H-1B workers can be visa holders. It was a measure aimed at making the India offshore firms a little less nimble and raising it as a trade issue for India.

What People Are Saying

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Rated +77
2137 Votes

My two cents

Wow, this forum has some very polarized opinions. I personally believe that the H1B system is seriously flawed and is being abused by the Indian outsourcing firms. No one can deny this abuse when 20,000 visas are going to just 5 or 6 Indian companies.

I think we need to encourage the young American generation to renew their interest in math and science. USA has been the world leader in innovation before and can once again regain that spot. We need to encourage R&D, otherwise countries like Germany are going to leave us behind. If we continue to innovate and make things better, tech workers and all this BS will not effect this country that much.

That being said, we need to pass legislation where stricter protocols should be applied to the worker visa program. Trust me, I have dealt with IT people before, not all of them are developers who deal with code. Some of their jobs are so mundane that we can easily train American workers to do it at not that much higher wages.

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I agree that most IT work

I agree that most IT work are mundane and tedious. They require very shalow knowledge. I have changed my field several years ago because I realized this. That's why we need these Indian people to do it for us. Otherwise we would have to do it ourselves. There is NOTHING to be gained by protective trade practices. It just prevents optimal division of labor. Tedious work deserves low wage because it is tedious. Therefore if American people wants high wage, they should do something less tedious. I don't believe the average pay at Google is less than $100k, because they are doing something creative and high quality. But we only need very small group of people to do that to satisfy the needs of the entire world, i.e. the job market is very small for "non-tedious" IT work. Therefore to keep high wages, smart CS EE engineers today should look for something else, such as analog circuit design (how to build cell phone), mechanical engineering (how to build cars and other high tech machines), control/power/electrical engineering (new energy, hybrid cars, etc)
These are the real engineering professions that require deep knowledge and solid foundation in science, not like IT works.

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Tedious Work?

I find it remarkable that you find IT work to be tedious. Perhaps it is if you keep things purely in a technical context. But depending on complexity and/or multi-system integration, even the pure technical can be a substantial challenge.

I find multiple challenges within my job. Right now I need to review BRDs that are laughable from users that really don't know what they want. What they really want is for you to build something, and keep enhancing until they like it.

IT requires vision, especially when users don't.

Impossible deadlines are standard. I'd replace "tedious" with stressful.

Now the added bonus is working with outsourced H1Bs from Indian consulting firms who do not care to expand past knowing the pure construction of a program. Who will only read and work functional specs like a legal document. Who will only work for you, and not with you.

And with that lack of cohesion, communication, and lack of teamwork, the quality of product plummets. When work is perceived as tedious, quality suffers.

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I am H1B worker myself. I

I am H1B worker myself. I see on this forum a lot of ill will and passion on both sides and angry exchanges.

I understand the attitude of the American Engineer. I feel the government of any country has an obligation to protect the jobs and wages of its citizens. I think I would be extremely angry if something like this were to happen in my country.

Maybe that makes me an hypocrite as I live and work here. But I earn approximately 6 times what I do back home for the same experience and work. In a couple of years I would have saved what it would have taken me a decade back home.
What human being would not do the same in this position if he could?

Its your government that is selling you out.

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462 Votes

As an American citizen and

As an American citizen and engineer, I couldn't have said it better myself.

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2081 Votes

Such a narrow minded way of thinking

American people think every human being is created equal and deserves the inalienable rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. They spend $1 trillion to try to give these rights to people in Iraq. Many foreign workers including me share this same belief and come to this country which has given people the right to life, liberty and purse of happiness regardless of ethnicity for many years.

It is my belief it is only a tiny minority of Americans who are wimpy, who do not possess or do not pursue skills that make them competitive globally who flock to websites like this to whine. The majority of American people are strong, self reliant, smart and do not blame others for their misery. Because they work hard they always keep themselves out of misery.

History has always showed that protective trade practices make a country weak and contribute negatively to prosperity in the long run.

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1504 Votes

Be more competitive

I have a working visa but I dont have a permanent job in the US. I work on a US company but I am based outside the US. I go to the US if necessary to do some specialized IT work.
These are some of things I have noticed w/c also may be the reasons why a US company outsources or asks help from foreign workers(FW):

1. Cheap Labor
2. Worker bee attitude of FW
3. IT and Engineering Ready as compared to Americans regardless of age and sexuality
4. Does not discriminate nature of job - tedious or not it still a decent and good job
5. Determined w/ goals
and more...

I am not saying that Americans are not good in IT, I have worked with Americans and in fact they are intelligent and innovative as well. Its just that the economy and sometimes practicality dicatates American companies to outsource FWs.

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Americans are competitive.

Americans are competitive. But, the H1B gives foreigners an unfair advantage. They are hired as essentially slave labor (they can't quit) and they will work for less? How can an American compete with that?

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Computer Science Enrollment

A lot of colleges are getting excited because they are seeing slight rises in computer science enrollment after years of decline. Raising the H1B limits will put an end to that.

If you are entering college soon, forget about computer science, engineering etc. The numbers for IT majors declined because of outsourcing and because people were afraid to enter a field that is being devalued. Ignore all that B.S. about "geeky image" etc. That had nothing to do with it.

The current rise in computer science majors only came years after the lowering of the H1B limits to 65,000 and is only a blip that will disappear when they double or triple the number of immigrant high tech workers.

The foreign companies like Tata, Wypro and Infosys (and companies that are American in name only like Cognizant and Accenture) will use these visas to help outsource even more tech work offshore. Most H1B visas are used by these companies on employees with "Bachelors" degrees (in India and China, bachelor's degree can mean anything) who average about 55,000 dollars a year. Google only applied for about 300 H1B visas last year and Microsoft applied for less than a thousand despite all Gate's whining on the subject. Meanwhile Indian outsourcer Infosys brought in almost 5000 temp workers on H1B who were used as liasons between American clients and Indian offshore staff.

By the time you graduate with a mountain of tuition debt, the job market for American tech workers will be gone. The students who preceeded you the last few years and avoided computer science and technology like the plague were not stupid, but you are if you ignore the lessons that they learned. I steered by own children away from this field and they and I have never regretted it.

Focus on Business Administration, Marketing, etc. Be one of the people who make the decisions to outsource and then benefits from it or you will find yourself "retraining" as a truck driver.

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BUt in 5 years there will be

BUt in 5 years there will be a severe shortage of IT people in US! Then companies will pay dearly for their off-shoring of IT labor. A company can;t function without an IT, dear commentators.
The highest salaries are commanded by people with IT experience and business education. It does not matter if you are US citizen, an H1-B or an L-1 holder.....Then enrollment in IT and CS programs will skyrocket again....And the cycle will start again....