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Fixing the XP SP3 reboot blues

What can I say? For me, XP SP3 was the cat's meow, the best Windows client operating system ever. But, for other people 'upgrading' to XP SP 3 is like being fed to a roaring lion.

They're seeing endless, and I mean endless-reboots. Many can't even escape to the relative safety of Windows' Safe mode much less get back to the safe harbor of a previously saved System Restore point. Most of the people experiencing this PC nightmare seem to be running computers with AMD chips.

The core problem though isn't that XP SP3 has a problem with AMD processors. It's that some vendors, and HP is the one that usually gets mentioned, used the same XP image on both their Intel and AMD systems. Usually that's not a problem. It's sloppy workmanship at the factory, but not a show-stopper. Well, until now anyway.

What happens on an AMD system is that when an Intel-only power driver-intelppm.sys--is loaded the newly patched PC throws a fit and locks you into reboot hell.

Well, actually it only seems like reboot hell. You can stop the madness by hitting the F8 key when you first see the black Windows XP screen. Then, on the character-based menu, select "Disable automatic restart on system failure." Chances are I didn't have to tell you that if you've been seeing the reboot cycle for a while. Then select Safe Mode. Once you're there, click on the System button, pick run and follow these instructions from Jesper Johansson, an ex-Microsoftie and now a Windows blogger,

1. Run regedit

2. Click on HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

3. From the File menu, select "Load hive"

4. Navigate to %systemdriver%\Windows\System32\Config on the dead system and select the file name System

5. Name it something you can remember, such as "horked"

6. Navigate to horked\ControlSet001\Services\IntelPPM

7. Double click the Start value and set it to 4

8. Repeat steps 6-7 for the other control sets.

9. Reboot

10. Send Johansson a thank you note if it works.

Johansson's blog also has advice on fixing other XP SP3 problems. If you're having trouble, be sure to visit it. Of course, what would be best is avoiding this entire mess in the first place. So, if your PC has an AMD CPU, you might consider following the steps above before applying SP3. Now, on my AMD PCs, I never ran into this problem, but if you want to be sure to avoid the reboot recycle, you may want to go ahead and fix your system before hand.

Just be sure not to remove the driver if you have an Intel-based PC. If you remove it then, you'll only give yourself an entirely different major problem. Johansson also gives instructions on how to get out of this mess.

There are other things you should do before installing XP SP3 that will help you avoid other possible upgrade woes. For example, you should turn off any start-up programs, especially anti-virus programs. If you're using the beta of Internet Explorer 8, ditch it. XP SP3 doesn't play with IE 8.

These steps may help, but I'm not as certain of them as I am of the earlier ones I'd mentioned. If you're already running a beta or release candidate of XP SP3, remove them before making the final upgrade. This personally gave me no trouble, but some people have reported trouble when they tried to do it.

Upgrading your drivers before the upgrade may help. Since I always run the latest drivers for my equipment, this wasn't an issue for me. In any case, it's usually a good idea to run the newest drivers to get the best and most secure performance from your equipment so you might as well update them as well so long as you're at it.

Last, but never least, whenever you do a major upgrade on any system, be sure to make a back-up. That way if everything falls apart at least you can restore your data and programs to another PC.

Good luck!

What People Are Saying

...additional on "Fixing the XP SP3 reboot blues"

Additionally: my computer is a home-build ASUS P4P800 Deluxe motherboard, Intel P4 3.0Ghz w/hyperthreading processor, 2 GB of Corsair RAM, and two WD IDE hard drives with RAID striping. I currently am using a single IDE WD hard drive with WinXP Pro and loaded with the newest SP3 patch and it runs just fine. This sytem sees the two RAID drives (set as slaves), but will not read from them. Am unable to figure out how to load RAID drivers for slave drives. Again, any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.
-Dan-

Fixing the XP reboot blues

I know this comes well after you wrote this article, but I'm still having trouble with my RAID hard drives and would really like to fix the problem, remove my data (including music I purchased legally, and am unable to use unless burned to CD's from these drives; due to Music Industry license restrictions), and continue using the drive I'm on now. My issue is the same as everyone else was having (i.e. constant reboot), then add the issue of inability to boot into Safe Mode or even to a command prompt. I've tried the repair utility on my XP install CD, USB drives, CD patches, floppy diskette patches, and I've tried every other suggestion that's been posted on just about every group, blog, or tech site that I've researched for the past several months. I'm ready to throw my hands up and the hard drives to the wolves. My mind is completely and utterly exhausted from this quest. You can only imagine my frustration at Microsoft! Any suggestions to fix this issue, with my inability to boot into anything, would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
-Dan-

Windows XP SP3 Constant Reboot

I have been trying to fix a constant reboot problem after loading Windows XP SP3, for the last six months. I have worked with a Microsoft representative, I ran the intel.ppm software, and tried everything I heard on the web. No luck!

Then, I read a blog that said ASUS had updated the BIOS to revision 1409 for the ASUS A8N32SLI-Deluxe motherboard and that it had solved the problem.

Sure enough, after installing the new 1409 BIOS SP3 installed flawlessly. Kudos to ASUS.

sp3 on gx240 dell

Guys I want to thank you for posting this article, however.. My problem is a bit different.

I have an old home made pc running a pentium 3/500. Yes.. I know. It is old, but still works well and in xp-SP3. Sunday, I upgraded the hard drive from 120gb to a 320gb and the new hard drive works well in the old pc, but now I have a Dell and I want to put the 320Gb hard drive with all my family video, documents and much more, to run on the Dell gx240 wich is a pentium 4, and presently have a 20gb drive running xp/so3 as well. I tried installing the 320GB drive from my pentium 3/500, however boots in a loop. Not to an error page, but to a dos page with all the boot options like safe, safe with networking, the best config that worked etc. After selecting any of the options, it attempts to boot, but goes back on a loop to bios and this page. I somewhat know that it has to be related to drivers that has to be loaded to recognize the dell pc, which are not there by default. So can you help me?

SP3 on A GX240 DELL

I want to tell you guys that I was able to repair my DELL XP SP3 booting problem. My error was 0X0000007B. I was able to overcome this error by installing an external IDE controller and connecting the Hard Drive to it, and the DVD-RAM connected to the motherboard IDE controller. This way it was forced to load both controllers drivers. Then, simply I uninstalled the external IDE controlled from windows, Reconnected the HD to the motherboard IDE contoller and rebooted. Windows gave me some grief, but accepted the harware changes.
Remember that this problem arised from moving one non DELL hard drive to the DELL GX240.

Thank you. Italo

SP3 Reboots

Just wanted to give Jesper a big "THANK YOU" for his SP3 Reboot Fix. Followed his instructions and all is well again!

Fixing the XP SP3 reboot blues

I took this opportunity to purchase and install Windows Vista Home Premium (SP1). This converted my HP boat anchor back into a working Media Center PC. On the plus side I got rid of all the HP crap-ware. I had no intention of moving to Vista but this problem convinced me. So far so good.

HP's Fault (Again)

The endless-reboot problem is clearly *all* HP's fault, to the dismay of MS-bashers.

Before installing SP1 on my computer, I had to install HP-specific patches.

Before installing SP2 on my computer, I had to install more HP-specific patches.

If you have HP computers, it pays to be a late adaptor of Windows Service Packs.

That said, I love HP brand desktop computers.

The Little Yellow Shield of DEATH!

This is a perfect example of why I always groan "oh no" when the little yellow shield from Microsoft shows up in my icon tray, telling me it wants to install something.

Since I'm running an HP-AMD machine, I'm sure glad I decided to wait to see if other people were having problems before installing XP3 when the little shield showed up last week.

Isn't it great working for free for Microsoft's quality assurance department?

A simpler fix

Steve,

There's another reg fix for the
0x0000007E stop error that's actually a bit simpler. And better, I applied it on my Cpq PC before loading SP3, and had no reboot loop (I'd already loaded SP3, got into bootloop hell, and uninstalled SP3 from Safe Mode, then researched the issue, so I already knew my machine was susceptible). It will, of course, work after the fact in safe mode, too.

In regedit, navigate to HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\intelppm
Double-click the "Start" keyword and change the value from "1" to "4" (or 0x00000004).

Install SP3 (if you haven't) or reboot from safe mode (if you have), and your computer will be happy.

It goes without saying that this key should only be changed on an AMD system (though I'm not sure what the effect would be if it were changed on an Intel based system), and if the intelppm folder isn't in the registry, it won't be a problem.