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Google and the Linux desktop

My compadre, David Coursey, doubts that Google will actually be partnering with any hardware vendor to deliver Google Android to users as a desktop Linux. Actually, David, I'm sticking with that prediction.

Google will start rolling out its Linux desktop on netbooks. The company will begin there because netbooks are the only division of PC sales that's actually still growing.

Once they've established a beach-head there, they'll move into laptops and desktops. Keep in mind though that, as Michael Horowitz points out, that you can actually use a cheap netbook as a desktop replacement.

Google's goal? To set up a cloud-based set of Windows file-compatible applications that will work hand-in-glove with Google Linux-powered desktops. Google already has the applications: Google Docs, GMail, Google Calendar, etc. etc. Now, just add an operating system where they, and not the boys from Redmond, call the shots, and they're in business.

Now, add on to that that Google is already working on one thing that both David and I would like to see from SaaS (Software as a Service): cloud synchronization. You can already synchronize GMail and Google Calendar to your local PC. It's not too far from this to being able to sync all of your work on your home desktop, your office laptop and your netbook via the cloud.

Coursey's other practical objection to Google and the Linux desktop getting a place in businesses is its lack of Windows business network compatibility.

Actually, thanks to Samba, you can easily get Linux desktops to work with Windows domain-based networks. With Samba 3, the current release, you've also been long able to use Samba servers in a Microsoft AD (Active Directory) in both native and mixed mode. What you could not do, however, is run Samba as an AD domain controller or run it in a Windows Server 2003/2008 level Forest.

With Samba 4 coming, that won't be a problem for much longer. And, since Microsoft has been forced by the European Union to share their AD network protocol secrets with Samba, Microsoft won't be able to keep the open-source desktops out of its networks. Can't wait until then for full AD compatibility? In that case, try Likewise. It's worked well for me.

This isn't just theory by the way. I've been running a hybrid 24-system Windows, Linux and Mac OS network using Samba on Linux and Windows Server 2003 and 2008 for years.

What else? Exchange? I've been using the best Linux e-mail/groupware client, Evolution with Exchange servers for ages. Oh, and it also works just fine with GMail and Google Calendar.

If Google does indeed follow through with this, I think it could be the best thing that could ever happen to the Linux desktop. I know the differences between Ubuntu, Red Hat, MEPIS, openSUSE, Mint, Mandriva, and all the rest, but let's get real. Unless you're already a hardcore Linux user, you probably only know one or two of those names. But, everyone, and I mean everyone, knows Google.

Someone might not buy a netbook with Linpus Linux on it simply because they don't know what it is. With Google on the front? That will sell. Guaranteed.

So, when you look at the whole picture, I think both Google and the Linux desktop are more than ready to make the battle for the desktop a real fight. Since this can only work to Google's advantage and Microsoft's disadvantage, I'm still expecting to see the first Google Linux desktops to appear by the end of 2009.

What People Are Saying

Google will have to compete justr like Linux

Having converted a few people to Linux when their Windows installs went boom and they did not have a Windows disc to fix it with - their main concern was compatibility. Would they be able to create and consume the same kinds of files that their peers were?

The answer is most of the time yes. Sometimes no (store bought software, some games).

Almost all of them stuck with Linux happily unless some big show stopper came along like BlueRay DVDs or the inability to install software they wanted to buy in the big box retailer (the shiny boxes lured them in...).

For the people that were honest with themselves about their needs and who had to operate within a mortal budget - Linux has been the perfect answer for them. Many of them still brag on their Linux installs months later.

Like a recovered alcoholic they realize that the reason they stuck with Windows was that about the time their computer began to slow from service pack updates that consumed ever more RAM and drive space, they would simply replace their computer outright and discard the old computer at great expense and start all over repurchasing their computer gear. Lost discs, incompatible old software, things that weren't shiny enough next to their new computer had to go.

Most of the people I've helped did not want to experiment with any unknowns. Their weak grasp on operating a computer didn't need any new twists like a new OS. Never mind that it would like stay fixed unlike the store bought stuff they were leaving behind...

They wanted shiny software out of a box that had guarantees printed on it saying it would work for all their needs even if the customer service hub was located on a moon of Jupiter, manned by people they can't understand, and even if it was obsolete in a year or two (not compatible with the newer version that released about 10 mins after the friend bought the old version out of the bargain bin).

I think a Google based OS or Google branded Linux would be grand BUT I'm not sure that they have that much to offer that isn't available right now - assuming all of what they offer is already on the table now. Is there room for computer OS innovation? Absolutely. I'd be interested in seeing what Google could offer to improve the user experience.

After trying to keep up with Mandriva for several years I switched to Mint Linux KDE 5.0 and I was "home". All it took was a Linux distro that generally worked. I have had no show stoppers and only a couple speed bumps to navigate whereas a cutting edge distro like Mandriva always had some rough edges that were beyond my then-newbie self to figure out. I recently test drove PCLinuxOS and it did the same thing for me - just worked.

I won't go back to Windows and because of opinions like mine and others who have discovered some favorite flavor of Linux - I think Linux has already won "the battle". The question is when Linux might have marketshare to prove it but I don't care about that though I know others have. I feel like I already see Microsoft squirming in it's boots, already adjusting it's game, already grasping for some way to take down Linux which is in way almost intangible - like a ghost. How do you kill a ghost? More and more people coming to people like me asking what this Linux thing is. That is promising and satisfying.

I'll be happy as I see Microsoft's market share slip a little. And a little more over the coming years. Too much marketshare by any corporate entity is a bad thing for us lowly citizens of the world as they can control us all with vast amounts of money in one way or another. Let Microsoft have a smaller share, and let competition scrap over the newly uncovered playing field. We'll all be better for it - even Microsoft.

The same thing is happening in the transportation markets. The rise of the EV. I recommend that you look up "Chevron patent encumberence NiMH". Big oil holds the current key to EVs for everyone - a durable battery capable of pushing a normal vehicle over 100 miles for 150K+ miles per battery lifespan. They'd like us to burn gasoline forever but we either have to wait until their patent runs out or until some better Li-battery chemistry arrives that doesn't age-out after a few short years.

We need mixed computing and mixed transportation energy sources and mixed energy generation. Seriously!!

Maybe in ten years we'll look back on the 90s and 1st decade of this century as being a brief period when big corporations controlled the playing field with vast resources and by fostering consumerism but finally we woke up and took back control of our money and our lives.

I don't think it will be any

I don't think it will be any better than Ubuntu, maybe a clone of ubuntu?

I'm not worthy

So now I get to trade one monopoly (Microsoft) for another (Google).

Time to get a real OS (Mac OS X).

??

What about the Apple monopoly? they use the i-prefix for just about everything these days... gee

Microsoft will loose the netbooks

GNU has the advantage of being many. Yes the fragmentation will be key, as there are so much strength in variation and the numbers. Google will do their part, Intel with their Moblin will do their part, Coreboot (BIOS replacement) will do their part, FSF, Linux, Debian, Ubuntu, Linpus, ARM, Loongson, Dell, plus plusspluss. Microsoft might be strong, but too slow.

- GNU netbook will start faster. Moblin boots into a full os in about five sec.
- GNU is stable and snappy. Fits a netbook
- GNU is glossy. People like the candy
- GNU is application rich. Yes.
- GNU is free, as in freedom. Power to the people (and their hackers)
- GNU is be free, as in beer. Cheers

In my country GNU/Linux was introduced in the computer stores summer 2008. I predict GNU will dominate by 2018.

Just what is success?

Let me ask one question. What defines success of the Google OS? What percentage of netbooks must have Google to constitute a success?

Are you considering 5% successful? 50%? More, Less?

20% is the mark

20% is the market share where a new entrant starts to be seen as a true competition to the monopoly.

Firefox took almost 5 years to reach the 20% market share. But it was competing with a product that Microsoft gives away for free.

If Google can reach 20% market share in the first year, it will be a *huge* victory.

2009 - The Year of the

2009 - The Year of the Netbook
2010 - The Year of Linux
. . .
2020 - The Year Microsoft Went Bust

It could happen. Let us keep our fingers crossed, eh?

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linux - a world without windows

Google and the Linux desktop

Netbooks are good to experiment with android. However I don't think that netbooks from Google will appear in 2009. Anyway, I’m more likely to buy gadget with anroid than with linpus.

What would they call

What would they call it?
Google Operated Desktop (GOD) :-)