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Google CO2 claim: a load of hot air?

In Monday's IT Blogwatch, Richi Jennings watches environmentalists accuse Google of emitting quite a lot of carbon dioxide -- but have they got the math wrong? Not to mention more Error'd...

Jonathan Leake and Richard Woods report:

Google logoPerforming two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as [making] a cup of tea, according to new research. While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2 Boiling a kettle generates about 15g.
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Though Google says it is in the forefront of green computing, its search engine generates high levels of CO2 because of the way it operates. When you type in a Google search for, say, “energy saving tips”, your request doesn’t go to just one server. It goes to several competing against each other. It may even be sent to servers thousands of miles apart.more


Om Malik waits to exhale:

Did you know that breathing for about 12 minutes emits roughly 7 grams of carbon dioxide into the air? According to a recent study conducted by Alex Wissner-Gross, a Harvard University physicist, that’s the same amount of carbon dioxide that’s emitted when you type in a search on Google.
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Seven grams of Co2 might not seem like much — after all, a small car emits .59 pounds (or about 268 grams) per person, per mile. But consider how often you do a Google search.more


Harry McCracken wonders about the tea-making thing:

I’m not sure what to make of that stat–is it a given that making a cup of tea is a more worthy undertaking than doing two Google searches? (The article’s in a British publication, so maybe so.)
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Why get uptight about the environmental impact of something so basically useful as Googling until we’ve shut down all ferris wheels, shoe-polishing machines, factories that produce whoopie cushions, and other power-hungry institutions that aren’t essential to humanity’s survival?more


SydShamino criticizes the comparison:

Were there not a Google (or internet equivalent), I wouldn't sit back in my rocking chair, exclaim "Oh, well," and have a cup or two of tea. Instead, I'd get in my car and drive to the library to look whatever it was up in a reference book, or search the catalog for a book I could borrow on the topic.more


Google's Urs Hölzle rolls his eyes:

This number is *many* times too high ... for the average query, the servers it touches each work on it for just a few thousandths of a second. Together with other work performed before your search even starts (such as building the search index) this amounts to 0.0003 kWh of energy per search ... so a Google search uses just about the same amount of energy that your body burns in ten seconds.more


But LeDopore gets out the calculator:

250g water in a cup of tea. Specific heat of water = 4186 J/kg/(degree C). 80 Celsius degree change.
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To boil a teacup's worth of water, therefore it takes ~80 kJ. For this to be twice the energy consumed with one search, that's ~40 kJ per search. If a search takes Google about 100 ms, that means Google would be using 400 kW while responding to your search.

That feels like it's about 3 orders of magnitude too high. It's possible that the original researchers got Calories and kCal confused.more


And Christopher Betts smells a rodent:

I get ... or 1/6th of the author's estimate, or 1/40th of the true kettle figure.

I'd say that the author is overstating the case to make a political point - if I was cynical I'd point out the author has also just launched a business to 'green your web site' ... so it is in his interests to overestimate such usage.more


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Richi Jennings is an independent analyst/adviser/consultant, specializing in blogging, email, and spam. A 23 year, cross-functional IT veteran, he is also an analyst at Ferris Research. You can follow him on Twitter, pretend to be Richi's friend on Facebook, or just use boring old email: blogwatch@richi.co.uk.

Previously in IT Blogwatch:

What People Are Saying

Clearly the solution is to stop breathing.

Let's say the researchers are right on their numbers(though they're probably not). Then let's say that Co2 is actually a bad thing(forgetting the fact that all plant matter needs it to survive). If there are about 6 billion people on the planet, and breathing emits 7 grams of Co2 every 12 minutes, then we can solve the problem quite simply. Enact a 12 minute global moratorium on breathing. That way we can prevent 42 Billion grams of that awful Co2 from entering the atmosphere! I'm sure that would be enough to cover way more than all the Google searches that have ever been done!

Here's another option. A permanent global ban on eating meat. If all humans were vegetarian, then we could kill all but a few cows and chickens needed for the species to survive, and eliminate all the Co2 they're emitting, permanently. And we get the added benefit of planting more vegetables, which in turn use up more Co2, and produce Oxygen. Not only that, we eliminate a huge source of harmful methane gas by getting rid of all those cows! Which brings me to my next suggestion, a global moratorium on farting...

Google has very low footprint on global CO2 emissions

Even with 1 billion searches a day Google would produce as low as 73 Gg of CO2 per year, which is equal to 1 millionth of the global CO2 productions.

More details can be found at:

http://blog.safog.com/index.php/2009/01/14/google-und-co2-emission/

Endymion-curious about name

Hello, Endymion,
Just curious, does your name refer to the SciFi book?
Best,
Diane

Dan Simmons' Endymion

Hello Diane,

you are right, the name is a tribute to Dan Simmons' masterpice...

Dan Simmons

What a good story--it took me a couple of months to finish reading the two tomes, though! Any good suggestions? A relative has suggested a French author, Pierre Bordage. Other favorite authors are Octavia Butler and Cherryh.

Prove me wrong

Endymion, die Blog-Post ist super, wenn Sie Deutsch sprechen. Leider gibt es nur wenige Amerikanische Leser Computerworld, die in der Lage sind, zu sprechen, dass die Sprache ;-)

Es tut mir leid für meine schlechte Übersetzung.

MfG,
richi.

We simply need local

We simply need local currencies and negatives interest rates, not less Google searches... Here is why

http://www.transaction.net/money/cc/cc01.html

I personally have seen the

I personally have seen the google dc in southern ontario and I can believe but the machines are up 24/7/365; Idle or loaded they consume power and create heat.

Using the machines to educate and inform gives the megawatts of power more purpose then trucking tons of useless chinese crap to retail.

Google CO2 claim: a load of hot air?

Considering the amount of CO2 produced by a thriving Petroleum-based global industrial economy, the most direct way to counter climate-change is to have a deep and prolonged recession!!!!

Google and Carbon

I think that the point isn't that a Google search isn't "worth" how much carbon it creates, clearly the utility of the search is very high. The issue is, because it's so easy, people conduct countless searches, as if they were "free"...perhaps the answer, along with more energy efficient servers, is for Google to offset all of their carbon.

C'mon Google...lead the charge!