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How Vista's total failure hurt Linux

Once I got a good look at Vista, I knew desktop Linux was in for good times. Vista was, and still is, a disaster of an operating system. I was right too. When netbooks started coming out, it was Linux, not Vista, that ruled.

What I hadn't expected though was that Vista would be such an absolute sales flop that Microsoft would actually reverse course and bring back first XP Home and then, in December 2008, XP Pro.

Of course, Microsoft hasn't come right out and said, "Vista sucks, we get it, here have XP instead," but for all intents and purposes, that's exactly what they're doing. That's one reason why they're pushing Windows 7, aka Vista Lite, out the door as fast as possible.

Windows 7, unlike Vista, will run on netbooks. Once, Windows 7 is out, Microsoft will go back to the business of killing off XP.

In the meantime, though, Linux has gone from owning the netbook niche to no longer even holding a majority stake in it. What happened?

According to Gary Marshall on Tech Radar it's because users are being presented with a choice between "Windows XP versus a whole bunch of different distributions."

I don't buy that. Only a Linux fan knows the differences, or even the names, of the various Linux distributions on the netbooks. What a customer or a sales rep. knows about a netbook is what it looks like, its amount of RAM and storage space, and its price. That's about it.

So why is XP making such a strong comeback? Well, I think Microsoft is offering some very sweet deals to the OEMs to make sure that XP gets a lot of play. The OEMs, who feel like Microsoft owes them after sticking with the Vista stink-bomb, are happy to get low-cost XP.

Even so, Linux-powered netbooks are still cheaper than ones with XP, but the vendors, with the exception of Dell with its Ubuntu hardware, aren't doing much to promote them. Yes, everyone who's anyone in PCs now offers desktop Linux, but they're not advertising it.

I suspect all of them are happy to have desktop Linux now. I also suspect, however, that it's mostly so they can tell Microsoft to make them a good deal for XP and Windows 7 licenses because if Microsoft doesn't come across, they can always switch to Linux instead.

So what can Linux do? Well, for one thing, we need to get the word out that desktop Linux is available and every bit as good, when it's not better, than Windows.

The Linux Foundation is doing what it can to promote this by pushing forwards with its "We're Linux" video contest. Desktop Linux has gone about as far as it can without the support of the broader, non-technical market. With the ads springing from the Linux Foundations' work, easy-to-use Linux distributions, and pre-installed Linux laptops and desktops, it's up to Linux's fans and vendors to get Linux moving forward on the desktop again.

What People Are Saying

What gives?

What IS it with all the crap about Linux VS MS VS Mac VS blah blah blah??

Why is it that if Linux crashes / locks up (and trust me, it does), it's NOT the fault of Linux - it's a bad program / driver / whatever?

If (heaven forbid) a MS OS locks up, it's the fault of MS.

So, applications are to blame if Linux crashes, but Windows is to blame if Windows crashes ... that's just lame.

Linux is more secure than Windows? How does anyone REALLY know? Linux isn't targeted by HALF the malware that Windows is. Of course not, if I was a bad guy wanting to attack as many PCs as I could, I'd write a virus for the OS that most people use. What if that OS were to be Linux? Let me guess - it's the fault of MS if Windows gets a virus, but it's the fault of (insert name here) if Linux gets a virus.

Saying Linux is better than Windows is like saying a car is better than an airplane. They're two completely different animals, with two completely different targets. Windows aims for uniformity and simplicity on a diverse range of hardware. Linux, while aiming for diversity of hardware, cannot even decide what desktop to use, every distro has it's own 'rules', heck, there are 3 or 4 different versions of many Linux programs just to accomodate the plethora of distros. Linux fails miserably on simplicity and uniformity.

And you honestly don't understand why Linux has such a low market share??

Video driver crash in Windows: boot Safe Mode, go to CP, update driver (or rollback)

Video driver crash in Linux: boot to command prompt, access super user, edit XORG.CONF, find all video driver stuff, edit (pray you know what you're doing), save, reboot, try to find a driver that works with your Linux distro

Which route do you think the AVERAGE computer user is going to want to take here? Advertise Linux to the general public (mommies, kids, grandmas and grandpas)?! You've got to be joking!

Looking to the future...

This has generated a lot of feedback on Windows vs. Linux. I have been a systems admin for both Windows and Linux for over 12 years, side by side. Which do I choose? Linux. Why? Because it's FREE, more stable than Windows, less to maintain than Windows, and just works. Microsoft is playing the game of vendor lock-in, and personally I don't want to participate in it. Windows has tons of flaws that cannot be explained, and with the release of Vista I can clearly see it is bloated. I have put Vista and Fedora 10 Linux side by side on the exact same hardware, and the difference is astonishing. I have Fedora 10 on a quad core PC and it is smoking fast. So, thankfully Microsoft has made my decision easy.

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Linux vs Vista Market Share

According to Net Applications, Vista has a 22.48% market share, and Linux has a 0.08% market share.

Vista is a success, and Linux is a total failure.

I use Vista SP1 Preinstalled, and it works just fine.

Market Share of Vista and

Market Share of Vista and Linux suggests that even the worst product (as people say) of Microsoft is much better and more preferred than Linux.

Vista works fine if you install it on new computer, yes its requirements are high but its not a failure as people say. Vista sucks is something that is hyped by Linux lovers just the way they hyped Windows 7 is another vista, interestingly I read first worst review of Win7 which was posted within 30 minutes of its Beta Release. How is it possible to review a product in 30 minutes.

Linux vs Vista Market Share

You're a giggle, dude! :-) If Vista SP1 works just dandy for you, then most likely you're only doing one or two things with it. For any serious use in an enterprise computing market, Vista is proven to be a major headache to system administrators and users alike. XP also has more than it's share of warts, but with care it can be made to work almost as well as Linux. I have 260+ Windows machines (of which only 6 is running Vista Business and 2 Vista Ultimate), as well as a back-end of more than 800 Linux-based PoS machines and central servers.

Our helpdesk system stats shows that of all our Linux systems, 70% of our calls are related to issues with our PoS software (bespoke, not open source), 20% hardware failure and 10% user issues. The total of Linux-based calls takes up less than 20% of our total call burden, 80% being purely Windows related. Of the Windows calls, almost 18% of all the calls are Vista-related problems. Do your maths, 8 desktop machines are responsible of 18% of calls generated by a total of 160+ machines. Totally disproportionate.

I'll give Windblowz 7 a try at some stage to see how well it integrates with our network, but I do not have high hopes. Windows is a good gaming platform, but for the enterprise it sucks. Badly.

XP vs Linux vs Windows Vaporware 7

The real threat to Windows OS hegemony are web-based applications and ones running on software like Adobe Air and Java, which any OS can use. This isn't necessarily a threat to Microsoft profitability, unless Microsoft decides to spend too much on OS's and not enough on developing platform neutral applications that can run on anything. Whatever profits they're gaining in the OS division are probably being lost 10 times over in the applications and video games division because of lost sales opportunities. Just because the Windows people lost the "hearts and minds" of someone running Mac or Linux doesn't mean Microsoft couldn't sell them a copy of "Word 97 for Linux" or "Halo 3 for MacOS".

You sir, are incorrect. Why

You sir, are incorrect. Why is Vista a total flop, it is just as stable as xp, or any other operating system. It was not a flop you are wrong. on the other hand, linux is far superior to any other OS.

Chris, By any measure you

Chris,

By any measure you can select of Vista vs any other MS product introduction, Vista IS a flop. Fact you would have to go all the way back to ME to find something that flopped worse in the marketplace.

The measure of whether Vista 'made it' is in the Corporations. Its MS's bread and butter. During XP rollout the take rate by the Corps was 9 out of 10. With Vista the roll out has been 1 out of 20.

You need no other metric than that to define a flop.

Netbooks are PDAs on STEROIDS

I see netbooks need more marketing. They should be marketed as PDAs ON STEROIDS instead of mini-laptops. The ubuntu remix idea is the way to go. Disassociation of latops would let people understand that they can do a lot more with netbooks that with smartphones, portable gaming devices, music players or PDAs. And they still are very portable and are about the same price, even less.

By the way, all the mentioned devices have different user interfaces and nobody complains, even more, people gets marveled when a trivial application is added to those inflexible devices as happens with the iphone. Its just a matter of offering a seamless experience for the casual user (and let the Linux entusiast exploit the full potential). You don't expect being able to print with your PSP or run photoshop on your iphone, why should a user expect that from a netbook, however, with some tweaking, it can, the user will feel that with a little work, they are getting more paying less :)

ยฟWhat do you prefere? edit a word document on a PDA or with OpenOffice in a netbook. Again, netbooks deliver more. ยฟsee the idea?

Finally I insist (from a previous post). Windows XP is not well suited for netbooks. The whole windows idea is to make machines run slower as the time comes, making users desire more and more powerful machines. The shinny windows netbooks will be slow as slugs in a few months.

microsoft vs open source

Vista vs Linux, Closed Source vs Open Source...

Why is it that all people want to see is a ultibillion dollar company go down the tubes in a matter of only a few years? yes MS is a hard player, yes they are a convicted monopolist, but in due time such a company will get what they deserve.

This OBSESSION with the demise of Microsoft, is well... out of hand. If you code, contribute in any way shape or form to Linux and Open Source and it's distro's then that is what you can do...

Otherwise... just get over yourself and this wishing to stick it to the man crap... it will happen.

If linux needs Advertising money..well buy some! Complaining about it over and over in your endless blog articles, is well, childish and old.

I used to feel the same, and still do. But, honestly, aren't you tired of stroking your own rod by now?

Contribute to the cause or just move on... no one is telling you that you have to use Windows ( if you want to play PC games...well use WINE or a console system... like the Xbox (just kidding )

good luck, you are NOT helping...although I do agree with what your saying... hell im commenting.. :)