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Seeing Through Windows

HP: Vista "Junk PC" scheme was "totally unacceptable"

Consumers weren't the only ones upset by Microsoft's Vista marketing scheme that sold "Vista Capable" PCs that couldn't run the most important features of Vista. HP was possibly even angrier, telling Microsoft that the move was "totally unacceptable."

That's the latest revelation in a class-action lawsuit against Microsoft for a marketing scheme in which people claim that Microsoft misled consumers into buying "Windows Vista Capable" PCs, even though the PCs couldn't run many of Vista's most important features. The new information about HP came out in a new round of recently released documents.

HP was upset because Microsoft bowed to Intel pressure, and put "Vista Capable" stickers on PCs with Intel 915 chipsets, even though those PCs couldn't run Aero or other parts of Vista. Intel said that it could face billions of dollars in revenue losses because it had many unsold 915 chipsets, and wouldn't be able to sell them unless they were called "Vista Capable."

Microsoft had previously told hardware makers that PCs with those chipsets wouldn't qualify for a Vista sticker. So HP spent millions of dollars building PCs with more powerful chipsets. When the company found out about Microsoft's decision, it hit the roof. Here, for example, is what one unnamed HP exec wrote to Intel after the exec found out about the decision:

"This just doesn't make any sense to us and for you to do this without talking to us is totally unacceptable...It's not very often you get pulled out a meeting by a group of engineers who feel that they have had the rug pulled out from underneath them so that any competitive advantage we may have had in the marketplace is taken away, enabling any Tom, Dick or Harry with a PC containing a noncompliant processor/chip set to play at the same table. It begs the question when is a PC really Vista-capable.

And Richard Walker, senior vice president at HP's consumer PC unit, had this to say to Kevin Johnson, Microsoft's chief operating office, and Windows honcho Jim Allchin in a February 1, 2006 email:

The decision you have made has taken away an investment we made consciously for competitive advantage knowing that some players would choose not to make the same level of investment as we did in supporting your program requirements...I hope this incident isn't a foretaste of the relationship I will have with Microsoft going forward, but I can tell you that it's left a very bad taste with me and my team.

If Microsoft was smart, it would settle this suit with consumers right away. Every time new documents are released, there's more dirt. Whatever Microsoft pays to settle will be far less than the good will it loses with each new revelation.

Preston Gralla is a contributing editor for Computerworld, and the author of more than 35 books.

What People Are Saying

HP didn't do everything right

One of the most common hardware incompatibility complaints of Vista was the HP all-in-one units. Perhaps the PC division made the investment, but the printer division disappointed a lot of users. One of the new features in Windows 7 is the Device Stage control panel. It allows control of all aspects of a device's properties in one panel. Perhaps HP can fix a previous wrong.

For all the consumers upset over the Vista marketing scheme, don't expect much as a result of the lawsuit. The lawyers will make sure most of the money ends up in their pockets. But you can benefit from this. There are a plethora of perfectly good computers that won't run Vista, or Windows 7. As Brian Kemp points out, they will run Linux just fine.

An enterprising PC repair shop could make a ton of money buying up cheap PCs and put an even cheaper OS on it, and sell a quality machine to people. One that just works. One that doesn't require a lot of maintenance.

There is a large group of people who just want to surf the web, e-mail and write an occasional letter. They have no brand loyalty to Windows. In fact, some feel they just got screwed by Microsoft. If they could walk into a shop with their 'junk' PC, and walk out with a screamer, they'd be happy campers.

Ubuntu Convert

I just upgraded my kids 11 month old laptop to Ubuntu because Vista was too slow. They couldn't be happier and now that they have a decent OS/Hardware combo I get my 5 year old laptop back.

So your kids don't play

So your kids don't play games huh? What do your kids do, just read websites or install Ubuntu drivers? Man that must suck.

Kids could play games

I always laugh at the commenter who has never seen or used Linux. On one of my Linux machines 2 thirds of the desktop real estate is covered with program icons and the vast majority of them are games.

Ubuntu is a Great Alternative

I have a similar experience.

My neighbor's PC crashed and needed Windows XP Home Edition re-installed. It has a license and it looked straight forward.

After six attempts I gave up. I managed to install a newer release of XP Home (SP3) but it will not accept the validation number from the sticker on the side of the machine and warns the system will shut down in X days.

Ubuntu installed automatically, first try. Everything works except that I need to install some codecs for playing DVDs. But, I know I need to do this because Ubuntu told me (and shows you where to find the required files) - unlike XP or Vista which just fail in such a situation.

I can not understand that Windows refuses to accept a legitimate license. It seems that Microsoft wants to force people to buy new computers (and a new OS) instead of allowing perfectly usable equipment to continue to function.

Linux is not perfect but it doesn't go out of it's way to alienate customers and annihilate any chance of brand loyalty.

Same experience here

Had to reload XP on my daughters machine due to malware. This happened several times. Then, Office would no longer accept the license code and wouldn't install again. XP was flakier than a box of Kellogg's corn cereal. So tried to reinstall XP and it would no longer accept the code on the machine. I wasn't happy.

So I installed Xandros Linux and OpenOffice and everything just worked. Even the Wifi (just had to enter the encryption code. No driver hassles what-so-ever, not even with the printer.) This was several years ago and the machine is still purring like a kitten. The only question I had to repeatedly answer after that was, "Dad, how did you make my computer so fast?"

I'll take those i915 chipset motherboards...

Sure they're not going to run the latest games, but they do have the best FOSS driver support.

Who cares if they can't run Aero? They're still perfectly usable for other purposes.

I'm waiting for many of my friends and family to start tossing these my way when they need to "upgrade" to Vista.

If you really want to run the latest games

then check out Cedega. Practically any game that can be installed on a Windows machine can be installed and run on a Linux machine. Cedega costs about as much as a game does and is worth every penny if games is what you are into.

Compensation?

Yes, the people who were harmed by the fraud should be made whole to THEIR satisfaction. Then the bloody Microsoft PHB's who made the stupid decision along with their minions who went along to get along should pay penalties.

The penalties should be at least a serious demotion and loss of perks, if not loss of their job and jail time. How about two years on the Vista Help desk without benefit of time off for good behavior? Then add one month for each "incident" not resolved in a timely manner to the caller's satisfaction. Maybe then they would learn what a pile of crap they pushed on the public.