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Internet Explorer 8 is better than Firefox 3

If you know anything about me, you know I have no fondness for Microsoft. If you really know me, though, you know that, much as I like open-source software and dislike proprietary programs, I'm a pragmatist. What I really like best in technology is what works best. That's why I put up with Apple's closed door policies and use an iPod, and why I now have to say that Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 is better than Firefox 3.0.7.

How can I say that? I can say it because I've been using Internet Explorer 8 on my Windows XP SP3 and Windows 7 systems for several months now and it Just Works Better. Of course, working better than IE 7 wasn't much of a trick. IE 7 was a dog. But after years of lagging behind Firefox, IE has finally caught up with Firefox's current production version.

Specifically, IE 8 does a great job of handling tabs. I can all too easily get lost in a forest of tabs with Google Chrome or Firefox. With IE 8, when you open one tab from a link in another, the 'related' tabs have the same color. By automatically organizing the tabs by color-coding, managing tabs just became a lot easier. This is one of those incredibly useful ideas that, after it arrives, you wonder how it ever could have taken so long for it to appear.

Microsoft has also included three useful new privacy tools in IE 8. The one that I've no doubt will see the most use is InPrivate Browsing, aka "porn mode." With it, you can launch a browsing session that will leave no traces behind of where you've been-cookies, browsing history, temporary files, etc-after you ended the session.

InPrivate Filtering sounds like InPrivate Browsing, but its purpose is quite different. With it you can block the site you're visiting from accessing other sites. While this will make many mash-up sites blow up, it helps make sure that your information is going to only the site you think you're visiting.

Finally, the anti-phishing filter, now named SmartScreen, has also been improved.

IE 8's overall performance has also been enhanced. It can now keep up with Firefox 3.

Internet Explorer 8 is far from perfect. I find it more than a little amusing that it can't render sites that have been 'enhanced' for IE 7. All of which goes to show, as I've long thought, that anyone who writes a site specifically for a version of Internet Explorer is an idiot. Web sites should be usable to anyone with a standards-compliant Web browser.

That said, IE 8 actually is, I think, better than Firefox 3. I'm not, however, switching from Firefox as one of my main two Windows browsers.

Why not? First, while Firefox has been lagging lately in its upgrades, it still has dozens of powerful extensions that make it more useful. In particular, Firefox with the Google Toolbar and Foxmarks goes from a good Web browser to being a great Web browser. Google Chrome, while it doesn't have Firefox's extensions, is the fastest Web browser around.

So, I think, we have a real three-horse race in Windows Web browsers: IE 8, Firefox 3.x and Chrome 2.x. For the first time in ages, Microsoft has a real contender. I'm looking forward to seeing how Mozilla and Google's developers address this challenge.

What People Are Saying

Bad Comparison

Really, IE8 just cannot be compared with FF3.0. The newest version of FF, 3.5.6 is just so much better than Internet Explorer. Most of the "new" features of IE were features that existed much before in Firefox.

Naturally, IE will work better (relatively) on Windows. What really should be tested is how good it works on other computers.

Here is another post, on this website describing how Firefox 3 is better than Internet Explorer 8:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/battle_of_the_betas_firefox_3_beats_ie8

Regarding Firefox

I don't know whether you guys have noticed it, but my Firefox crashes often sometimes several times a week and I find it to be disturbing since I watch alot of films which I store it for days sometimes by putting my laptop on hibernate mode and I have optimized my RAM for this purpose, but however, it just seems that Firefox really can't handle it at all when I open Firefox and simulteanously multitasking heavily. On the other hand, I have downloaded IE8 though I don't make much use of it, but I have been considering going back to IE for good if the problems I've been encountering don't stop in the future.

Note: Prior to the latest update of Firefox, it also happened the same with regard to the crashes that occured when using firefox and simulteanously multitasking a lot. I hope Mozilla finds a way to fix this issue or come with an regulatory guideline on how to use Firefox properly.

Minor detail.

While Microsoft thinks it is worthwhile to port Silverlight to Linux and is helping Intel do this, they don't think Internet Explorer is as important. Therefore, until I get the AV, Anti-spyware and firewall programs assembled, and do a backup of the computer and cut a restore CD, (not provided with the computer), I won't be booting windows on this machine, and thus won't be able to verify Steven's claim.

Or I could wipe the partition and free up twenty eight gig, not worry about that and simply forget about being deprived because I can't use IE 8.

Firefox + NoScipt + AdBlock = No Contest

Enough said.

IE8's Security Advantage

IE8 supports Protected Mode. Firfox doesn't.

IE8's SmartScreen Filter blacklists known phishing sites, malware sites, and malware file dowloads; and is superior to Firefox's offering.

FF Still Provides Better Security

I have both IE8 and the latest FF. I prefer FF and only use IE8 for school work (IT major who has to run MS VMWare for projects). I used to be an evangelist for Microsoft products including IE and have concluded that while MS products are quite useful, IE is still not quite as safe as FF.

The somewhat-obscurity of FF has proven to be an advantage from a security standpoint. Most viruses and trojans are written to run in IE. A couple months ago, I had to troubleshoot a computer infected with several trojans that hi-jacked the browser (among other things). After much research, I found that the virus could only run under IE. So I downloaded FF, then was able to download the malware software to eradicate the trojans.

Also, I've been involved with a couple network security competitions that involved a team of hackers (professional, mind you...this year's team consisted of one man who had 30+ years of experienced and possessed $100K tools used in the Pentagon). He had much more trouble breaking into FF, meanwhile he had a field day with IE.

Also, the latest version of FF has a Private Browsing feature too, which does not make IE much more special in this case.

In addition to these first-hand experiences, I've also had IE8 crash on me at least once a day every day. FF, during the past few months of my using it, has only crashed once.

IE8 is more secure than Firefox

Recently I have been using Firefox because it was loading pages faster. Recently, it caused my computer to crash more frequently and it loaded pages I never knew were harmful. I installed a new anti-virus software application that enables infected website notification on search pages while using IE8. After a major computer crash while using Firefox and a manual computer reset, I have had enough!!! I'm switching to IE8.

The biggest problem when

The biggest problem when reading always that FF vs IE posts is that people are thinking of a complete differend thing when comparing them.

As end-user you see the interface. (Which is good on ie8 i must say). And jeah it doesnt crash so often as firefox does. So i realy see the reason for a user to use ie8... or better to say "why they want to use it".

But the problem is simply that the rendering engine (not the interface) is as bad as hell!

Sure you can see every site... thats only why some1 spend days in getting it to work and make realy bad hacks.

Firefox has a not so beautiful interface but many addons. Secondly when you develop a website following strict rules, it works on FF, Opera, Safari, Chrome almoast perfect. only minimal problems... Then ie messes you up.

It would be awesome if some end-users would support developers and switch their browser so microsoft has actualy to do something about that.

Even worse, some people use IE6, which even has complete render bugs, like displaying stuff twice (which simply cant be) or doesnt show them at all.

Maybe it would be the perfect if MS makes a contract with Mozilla, Apple, Google, whatever and replace the MSHTML engine with another one, while leaving the IE interface functional.

But WHY should microsoft change anything about that if everyone runs with them?

Final conclusion. I would say "IE8 is nicer to browse with than FF, but its the worst browser at the marked".

Oddly, for development I use

Oddly, for development I use Firefox mainly, but for general web browsing purposes I use IE8. I prefer IE8 as a browser for it's features and how it deals with tabs/Favourites/compatibility with websites (everyone compensates for IE, including myself, so when it comes down to it most websites will work with IE). But when it comes to debugging my JavaScript and testing for standards compliance, I prefer Firefox/Firefox Addons. Of course I use IE to make sure my projects work on IE XD. Chrome's pretty good but as usual it's "use it the way Google made it or don't use it at all". I mean come on it should at least have a sidebar for Bookmarks.

In other news...

...Hell has become covered in a six-inch sheet of ice! ;-)