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KDE 4.2: Finally a new Linux desktop I can like

I won't rehash my feelings about earlier versions of KDE. Suffice it to say I didn't like it and you can review my comments about KDE 4.0 and KDE 4.1 elsewhere. At first glance, I also wasn't impressed with KDE 4.2, but I decided to give it one more try, after some performance fixes in the latest edition, and I'm finally impressed.

What got me to look at KDE 4.2.2 was the unofficial release of openSUSE 11.1 'Reloaded' with KDE 4.2.2 packages. As Joe Brockmeier, openSUSE's community manager told me, "This is an installable live CD, so it's good for anybody who wants to run 11.1 without having to grab all of the updates since December, and for users who want to test out the latest & greatest KDE without having to re-do their system."

Brockmeier, aka Zonker, added "This is not an 'official' release, so it's not gotten the same level of testing as an 'official' release, but should be a relatively good release and is based on packages from 11.1, excepting the later KDE software."

That was good enough for me, so I downloaded the Reloaded CD image and installed it on an HP EliteBook 2530p, a 3-lb. ultra-light notebook that comes with a 1.86-GHz Core 2 Duo processor and 2GBs of RAM. This powerhouse netbook came with Novell SLED 11 (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop) installed on it so I had no doubts it could handle openSUSE. It also had the horses that I knew KDE 4.2 would require to show its stuff.

Since the EliteBook doesn't have an optical drive, I used an external Sony DVD drive to load the live CD. There's no ready-to-go version for a USB stick at this time.

The installation took about half-an-hour, and the very first thing I noticed that KDE 4.2 was actually running quickly! I had tried to run KDE 4.1.3 on the very same netbook, and I quickly threw it out in favor of GNOME 2.24 because it was too darn slow. Not KDE 4.2.2, this model shows a good turn of speed both on the screen and in running programs.

I also appreciated that FolderView is far more flexible. I like the traditional WIMP (Windows, Icon, Mouse, and Pointer) interface of KDE 3.5x, and with this new version of FolderView I can have it. All I had to do was right-click on the desktop, pick Appearance Settings and set the Desktop Activity Type to FolderView. Ta-da, I'm back to the style of interface I already know how to use. Of course, if you'd rather have a floating FolderView or two, you can do that as well.

KDE 4.2's default look, Ozone/Oxygen isn't for me. But, this Reloaded version of openSUSE and KDE uses the 'Aya' theme. This theme is clean, gives users control over the desktop's colors, and it's just a lot easier on the eyes than Ozone.

KDE 4.2.2 is also a lot easier on the system. Earlier versions of the KDE 4.x series were prone to memory leaks and instability. This latest edition doesn't eat up memory like a famished elephant presented with a dump-truck of peanuts and it's much more stable. In fact, KDE 4.2.2 is the first edition of the KDE 4.x series that I think is good enough for any user, rather than expert Linux users.

Is KDE 4.2.2 going to replace GNOME 2.26 or KDE 3.5.10 as my favorite Linux desktops? No, not yet. But, I am finally looking forward to seeing what comes next from the KDE 4.x family. And, I think any Linux desktop user should now give KDE 4.2.2 a try. You might just find that KDE 4.x is for you.

What People Are Saying

Linux and Lexmark Z13

Hi,

I've been using Linux (Ubuntu) for two year or so now. But till date I've never been able to figure out how to make my printer - Lexmark Z13 to work. So everytime I need to print something I've to switch over to Windows to get the job done. This is time consuming and fun-killing. Any idea how to get my printer to work with Ubuntu. Thanks for any help.

Reuben,
Shillong, India

Nice grovel back

SJVN didnt want to be remembered this year as the guy who hates KDE4 with a blind passion so "joe" gave him a great way to bring himself back to seeming neutrality instead of stupidity.

The difference between 4.1 and 4.2 is not big enough to justify the "FORK KDE!!" shrieks he last gave but hey, its big enough for SJVN to calmly slip by and hope that the collective memory of the internet forgets by next week.
Sure, you were impressed by 4.2 but this tweak makes all the difference?

Hey, who am I to judge the quality of one's lies and justifications?
I've told many a tall tale to the wife after a night at the pub.

Was there problems with the earlier .0 and .1's? Absolutely and that is WHY most sane people didnt go off half cocked like Chicken Little and just enjoyed their KDE3.5.1.0 and waited until the next 6month period to see if that was the one.
No one has ever explained why the felt they couldnt stay with KDE3.5 a little longer? Were they forced into changing for something that wasnt ready?

And KDE4.2 was the one.
It was the one that was good enough for mom and pop to use and that made netbooks come to life (The ugliness of Ubuntu8.04 Gnome desktop was one thing that many commented on.) for friends who wanted that Leenux thing that doesnt need a virus, malware, adaware, spysweeper and other niceties of the windows world.
4.2 makes the change from Windows very smooth.
Im still missing a few things and will hope that they're fixed by 4.3 which will be out in a month or two but that was the deal since 4.0, you only have to wait for 6months for a point release.

Really, Im happy SJVN has come back to sanity and weaseled his way back in. I also know that Linux writers like Bruce Byfeld did a much superior job detailing the short comings of KDE but also the progression and challenges facing such a big jump.

Fine, so this 180degree turn is transparent and self serving. Its ok, we all act panicky sometimes when there are rough patches.
Its just that most of us dont go screaming like hysterical little girls when we dont agree with something.
We still enjoy SJVN's writing, its just that we remember him like we do that kid who pooped his pants in grade 6.
Certain things are pretty hard to forget.

And love the backhanded "It also had the horses that I knew KDE 4.2 would require to show its stuff." compliment when everyone has heard the claims of KDE4 before up to 30-40% faster than KDE3.
I've run both on 5+ year old crappy laptops and noticed the diff in speed so im not sure why you felt the need for power.

And having installed Mandriva 2009 w/ KDE4.2 on 8-9 different netbooks, I dont think horsepower is a problem.

I don't see the need for all

I don't see the need for all this unjustified annoyance at SJVN.

I'd like to point out that KDE 3.5.x was and still is the epitamy of a vastly functional and customizable desktop environment. 4.0 and 4.1 were unpolished, slow, and downright frustrating to use.
The amount of work to make 3.5.x well-written and scalable is unfeasable as many people have pointed out, but that shouldn't stop us from wanting it. I can completely understand SJVN's point of view and am surprised that you cannot.

There is no 'weaseling' going on. Unlike some people, SVJN is not a KDE fanboy like some of us (including me), so we shouldn't expect him to suffer like the rest of us when he has other options. KDE 4 series may have been released too early, but the feedback the KDE team has gotten is evolving the Desktop into something greater, faster. We are beginning to see those results.

SVJN's choice to want a great environment to work in shouldn't be viewed with such disdian. Force a Windows user that hasn't used linux before to use 4.0 or 4.1 and you get the same result.

And his comment on 'knowing it had the horses to show its stuff' relates to the Desktop Effects, I'm assuming. When you have transparency, shadows, compositing, and a great deal of rendering going on, having enough memory is important. How can you overlook such a basic aspect?
Just try using Vista Home Premium on your 8-9 netbooks and tell me you don't need horsepower.

We don't need your hate. Kudos to SVJN for having a sense of quality.

On a side note, I had to re-install my video drivers going from kde 4.0 to 4.1 before, you shouldn't expect a normal computer user to go through that. I've also had the Window Decorations disappear before after an upgrade. KDE 4.2 is actually a pleasure to use now.
3.5.10 is great, but I've moved on.

Yes, that tweak is enough

If there's a switch in 4.2 that lets me use my desktop as I'm used to, yes that tweak is sufficient for me to try KDE 4.x instead of 3.x, so I found the post very helpful.

And many users _were_ essentially forced to 4.x - when their distro of choice jumped to 4, they assumed a higher version number was the better one to download (which is an assumption that generally holds true), then found themselves in a frustrating environment that didn't respond the way they were used to/expecting.

In short, your response to the post seems way out of proportion. I found the post helpful and it gave me info about 4.2 when I wouldn't have gone looking for it on my own at this point.

Locking widgets

Steven wrote: Of course, if you'd rather have a floating FolderView or two, you can do that as well.

Steven, did you lock the widgets? FolderView doesn't float if you lock the widgets.

Your bad early experience with kde 4 may be due to the fact that you didn't lock the widgets.

Ubuntu is getting worse

I have tried Linux first with Ubuntu 7.04 then the new Ubuntus every time. From my experience it's getting just worse with every "upgrade". With the last Jaunty the wireless was a hassle and I actually don't have a normal browser for a full experience these days. Firefox leaks memory big time, Opera does not support flash as it should, Chromium is a bad joke. So no browser fully functional. Then there is a HUGE problem with memory leakage or something, my laptop (512 mb ram) just grinds to a halt with just 2 windows open. I know if I search for the next 2 days maybe I'll find the solution. But it's just a lot more easier to push the power button and restart in Win XP. And by the way "it just works". Still I have a big thank you to linux, because of it I now really learned to appreciate Windows XP.

Linux/Wind

Just today I upgraded to 9.04 Jaunty Ubuntu on my Acer 4530 laptop.
Plays all my WIN games via WINE software.
My CPU runs cooler now and wireless works with no tweaking whatsoever.
I really liked the new start up eye candy.

My father, who needs help Emailing photos Uses Ubuntu and dousnt have much trouble anymore (no more viruses) mainly.

business wise:
I don't trust Mi--0s@ft with tasks involving privacy and money.

How many people do you know who will buy THE RETAIL From the software giant?
Any one? A:>just get it preloaded for free.

My advice=Learn both operating systems, nothing like LINUX/WINDOWS on a resume.

It might be biased but nowhere do I read this being news.

Pity is due

If you actually read the EULA for XP and still went back to a Microsoft offering, all I have for you is pity. If you are ok with someone owning your computer other than you...I just don't have printable words here. It's just sad. Read the EULA and tell me that you are ok with it.

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Whats the point in this?

How does this relate to the article which is about KDE?

And if Ubuntu didnt work out for you why not try another distro like OpenSuse or Mandriva. Ubuntu does not equal Linux.

And anyway a fresh install of XP doesn't just work. There is a lot of drivers and software installs ahead once XP is on the system.

GP doesn't know what he is

GP doesn't know what he is talking about, comparing XP PRELOADED on a PC with Linux TO BE INSTALLED on a PC. I installed XP yesterday on a virgin PC, only to find that I ALSO had to hunt down and install drivers for:

1. Ethernet card (and um.... how the ^%#$ was I supposed to go on the Intarwebs without a network connection??)

2. Printer

3. Graphics card

4. Sound card

5. Webcam

Then I had to install OfficeXP. All in all: 6 hours.

On an identical machine Ubuntu 9.04 took 20 mins. Done. EVERYTHING worked.

So yes, Mr. Foo, GP is a troll.