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Linux does have a future on netbooks

I'm puzzled. Desktop Linux, for the first time ever, has at least 1% of the desktop market. Linux probably has considerably more than that. So, why is Lenovo's Worldwide Competitive Analyst Matt Kohut claiming that Linux has no future on netbooks?

Could it be because, as Kohut said, "there were a lot of returns because people didn't know what to do with it." Really? That's odd. Most of the time, you have to ask for Linux by name. Of the big name computer companies only Dell makes it easy to choose Linux and even at Dell, you really should head straight to Dell's Ubuntu Linux site or you can spend a lot of time looking for it.

That reminds me. Dell is now offering the newer Ubuntu 8.10 on its Inspiron 15n laptop. In the past, they were only offering the older Ubuntu 7.04. Check it out. You see, Dell is taking desktop Linux seriously.

All the other big vendors, including Lenovo, make it almost impossible to find their desktop Linux offerings. You'd almost think they want desktop Linux to fail, and they're only offering it because those darn, pesky customers keep asking for it.

As a matter of fact, Lenovo, even though their flagship ThinkPad laptop line works great with Linux, has been blowing hot and cold about desktop Linux for years. And, last fall, they finally made it impossible for individual users to buy a ThinkPad with Linux.

Kohut also claims that desktop Linux is also harder than Windows to use. Come on. Ever try to get Vista to talk to a NAS (Network Attached Storage) device? You know, the ones that are almost certainly running Linux and Samba under the hood? OK, how about getting Vista to transfer files at faster than a snail's pace? Or, my latest favorite, getting Windows 7 to create a new partition for itself in a fresh installation?

Guess what, in all those cases, and many, many more, you need to get just as down and dirty with Windows registry and the like as you might ever have to do with Linux. Oh, except for that last one. I had to resort to Linux to create a partition that Windows 7 could live with.

On the flip side, I can go weeks, months, without end on both Windows and Linux and never touch the Windows registry or a Linux configuration file. This is 2009. Any modern, pre-installed Linux is just as easy to use as Windows for day-in and day-out jobs.

You know what really ticks me off the most about Lenovo's attitude towards desktop Linux? I know there's a demand for ThinkPads with Linux. Go to any Linux tradeshow. You'll see more ThinkPads than any other kind of Linux-powered PC. Lenovo could have been the poster-child for desktop Linux. But, instead, the real reason why Lenovo is making its ridiculous claims against desktop Linux is that the company wants to be Microsoft's stooge.

Good luck standing out from the crowd with that approach. It's only what 99% of all PC vendors do. Desktop Linux will continue to grow with, or without, Lenovo.

Oh, one last thing, Lenovo? About Linux and netbooks? Keep an eye on those ARM-powered netbooks running Linux and Google making its netbook Android move later this year. I see unpleasant surprises ahead for any PC vendor that's actively campaigned against Linux.

What People Are Saying

It will take time

It will take time but Linux ain't going away. I keep reading these articles about how Windows 7 is going to kill Linux. Kill a free operating system with millions of users and large communities supporting those users? I don't think so. I think the issue with the large computer companies is they do not want to support another operating system. Windows gives them enough challenges, and just when XP was becoming really stable MS threw Vista at them. My God, can you blame them for being skittish about supporting another system.

My beef with these companies is that they slap Linux on a box and don't tweak it to run on the hardware. That is why companies that do tailor their machines to Linux are doing so well. I would rather have a company not offer Linux if it is not going to support it well. If a company like Dell puts Ubuntu on its machines then it should run everything out of the box. There should be no issues with printers, mp3, video, loading pictures from a camera etc. All these things Linux can do but when vendors get lazy and only offer half-hearted support thus Linux takes the rap.

What we need is a few good companies that will attend to the details. And one of the great details is that the OS should work with all of the hardware on the computer. I should not have to find drivers for my video card if I bought my machine from reputable vendor. The problem with Linux on many machines these days is that it is sold as an after thought. When we get a few really high quality vendors that take pride in their products then Linux will be seen for what it truly is - a really great OS that can do it all when properly configured and installed.

Windows 7 will add $50 to the netbook price (at least)

Remember that Microsoft had to give XP almost for free, to regain the netbook market.

But Microsoft is planning to sell Windows 7 for full price, and they won't be able to put a $50 operating system in a $250 product. (And Windows 7 Starter will be a imense failure.)

Thus, the typical netbook buyer will be faced with the following options:

1) Intel/Linux: $250-$300

2) Intel/Windows 7: $300-$350

3) ARM/Linux: $200-$250

Some people will choose Windows 7, for sure.

But I think we can expect that 1/3 of the market to go to the cheapest alternatives.

And 1/3 could go to Apple -- if they decide to release a Mac netbook.

That would be the perfect storm for Microsoft.

Linux Netbooks etc

I returned the Linux Netbook I purchased at Target.com not because it was hard to connect to the network through my wireless router, it was very easy to connect and to use plus it took my HC-SD 8gb card as if it belonged to it.

The reason why I returned it was because when you pulled up the browser there just wasn't enough room to me for the main reason I bought it, to surf the web.

A 9 inch screen is just too small. I believe if they went to a 13 inch screen they would sell just fine.

Huh???

If they had a 13" screen and more memory and a bigger hard drive, oh wait thats a laptop....

It's a NETBOOK it's small... get it??? ssssmmmmaaaaallllll.....

MS Had to buy their way in

I can't get a taker for this comment, but I feel Microsoft had to essentially give away XP-Home to win back marketshare on Netbooks. There is almost no "Microsoft Tax" left. XP-Home? Free? $5.00? Will we ever see the breakout from Microsoft showing how little they are getting to try to hold on to market share? We don't have public pricing data, but it's an OS that they have had almost 10 years with which to recover their investment.

I wiped XP off my last two laptops (regular laptop and netbook) and never booted it the first time. Both run Ubuntu. I've done lots of user interface projects over the years, so I looked at the interface for Ubuntu Netbox Remix carefully and concluded that it was very intuitive and made the most use of my 10" screen. Once I customized my Favorites screen, I never have to switch to any of the tabs on the left or right. It's all there, right where I need it. No menus. Who invented "start->programs" and why did we need to copy it (Gnome, KDE). We don't need menus.

It's more like 10% Desk Top Linux

Based on what I've seen, the numbers are closer to 10%.

1) Almost all Linux installs replace Windows.
2) A lot of corporate machines are not allowed on the internet.

Microsoft is well aware that Linux penetration is well above 5%, and probably closer to 10% in North America alone. They are scared witless of this. Loosing a sale of Windows isn't so bad, but loosing a sale of Office, that really hurts, and most machines running Linux (or BSD, or Solaris) will not end up running Office, even though they are capable of it.

Early on, many netbook

Early on, many netbook manufactures offered cheaper Linux builds side by side with the Windows machines. Many people choose Linux just because it was cheaper, not knowing what it was. THAT is why you have to ask for it now.

You're criticizing a company for dropping an OS used by 1% of DESKTOP customers, and surely a lot less of notebook customers.

You say they had a chance to become the "poster child" for mobile Linux. Maybe so, but that would mean a considerable amount of cost in development and marketing for them, at a maximum gain of %1 market share. Doesn't seem like good business sense.

Can you backup your claims with links

Can you backup your claims with links to your sources please?

Claims without facts are opinions. Are you an astroturfer or a troll? Prove me wrong with unbiased facts please.

Netbook Linux share below 1%

He doesn't need to provide links since it's pretty much common knowledge that Linux market share dropped below 1% even on Netbooks.

In your wild dreams..

So first, dont steal people's name, that makes you less credible. 'Common knowledge' is not a credible statement either, it's more like a sophist (if that word is too fancy for you, here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophists ) propaganda. As a matter of facts System76 had a 60%+ increase in profits last year, I am really wondering why... maybe because they offer pre-installed ubuntu computers only and that they provide great support (not like others like.. *cough* Dell) ? Also why the stats given in Net Applications (M$'s buddy) do not add up to a number consistent with 100% ?