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Linux's dirty little secret: Uninstall

Go to the Fedora Project Wiki and search for "uninstall Fedora."

You won't find anything.

(NOTE: A page titled "How to uninstall Fedora" was added to the project wiki after this blog was published, as noted in the comment section below in a post titled "Contribution is easy.")

Try "remove Fedora."

Nothing.

Go to Ubuntu's official documentation site and search for "uninstall Ubuntu." 

You won't find anything in the "official" documentation but in the "community" section you find two entries that state "Wubi allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu...."

In an installed Ubuntu distribution, clicking on Help and searching for uninstalling or removing Ubuntu finds nothing. A link “repeat the search online at the Ubuntu help pages” brings up a 404 – page not found.

If you look hard enough on the real community support pages you'll find a post from July 2007 titled  "HowTo: Remove Ubuntu (& Restore Windows)" .

Have a cow

 The post starts out: "Okay, I know some people are going to have a cow because I'm posting this."

(No kidding. Just take a look at the excoriating flames that are sure to appear in the comments section of this blog.)

OpenSUSE does better. A search there finds the page titled SDB:How to Uninstall Linux from December 2006. The page includes more than 1,300 words to describe various processes.

Go to Google and search "install Linux" and you get about 1,450,000 hits. Try "uninstall Linux" and you get about 16,800. "Remove Linux" gets you about 53,300.

Why is it so hard to find instructions to remove Linux and then so hard to actually do it?

Why can't you just easily find the uninstall procedure in a help file, and click a button and follow the instructions?

Windows makes it easy

Opening the Windows XP Help and Support Center and searching for "uninstall Windows" brings up, first thing, "Uninstall Windows XP" and a 5-step process from the Control Center.

Did you know that in a dual-boot install Linux will partition your hard disk and if you remove the partitions without restoring the Master Boot Record on your boot-up disk, your computer won't start?

Did you know you'll likely need separate applications such as fixmbr or fdisk or partitioning software to get your system back the way it was, hopefully having not lost any data? Or you may need to change a BIOS setting to boot to a Windows CD and use its "Recovery Console?" These all depend on your version of Linux. Again, openSUSE seems to do the best job in automating the process, with the "YaST2 Control Center."

Oh, and if that dual installation included Windows, and partitions were resized, "Microsoft does not support Windows installed on partitions manipulated in this manner."

So it's just you and that Linux documentation. Good luck.

Now, I don't have any great love for Windows and I like Linux. I really do. I'm going to use it and learn a lot more about it.

But if you're a newbie like me, you'd best be warned. Searching various Linux forums finds a lot of users who have had problems uninstalling the OS and have lost data in the process.

Go back to Windoze? You're stupid

And while there are some helpful Linux aficionados who try to help these people out -- and others searching for uninstall help -- there are too many posters who take the attitude along the lines of: "Why would you want to uninstall Linux? That's crazy. You must be stupid to want to go back to Windoze."

If you want to try Linux out while keeping Windows, it's a real good idea to try it from a "live" Linux CD/DVD instead of installing it on a hard disk. I’ve tried several. The response is slower, of course, but you get an idea of how it works and don’t risk losing anything. For Ubuntu the Wubi installer accomplishes the same thing by treating Ubuntu as a Windows application.

Do your homework

 If you do install Linux on a disk, make sure you do a full system backup. And make sure you have a bootable "rescue" or "system" CD. And really do your homework. Read up on disk partitioning and logical volumes and extended partitions and mounts; and GRUB and LILO bootloaders; and NTFS, FAT 32 and ext3 file systems; and gparted and maybe the commercial app Partition Magic -- which supposedly merges/resizes partitions without destroying data -- and so on.

Then read it all again. And be careful our there.

Next time I'll document the uninstall procedures for a few distributions.

What People Are Saying

Sorry, Charlie!

If you are qualified to install an OS, then you should realize that "uninstalling" an operating system will essentially lobotomize your computer; it doesn't matter WHAT OS you remove, you're going to have problems.

And that "uninstall Windows" crap you mention? The "Windows XP Help and Support Center" is about as useful as tits on a boar. As a Windows professional, if I have a question about how to do something on Windows, I'm going to go to http://www.google.com/microsoft and not to any Microsoft obfustication page.

Your complaint is unfounded garbage; it's pure FUD, designed to frighten people away from *trying* Linux. If you don't know how to "uninstall" something, you have no business installing it yourself in the first place if there's even a small chance you'll want to remove it.

And the way to remove Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, BSD, BeOS, ReactOS, or any other OS on a PC is simple: Boot a DOS floppy with the "zap.exe" utility from IBM on it. Run the command "zap 0" and answer "y" to the prompts. Then go install a new OS on your freshly-blank hard drive.

F$F shill.

F$F shill.

It's no secret, dirty or otherwise

The only reason that I can see anyone having a problem with this is because it is so simple that some people can't believe how simple it is.

To completely remove Linux, just install Windows.

If you have a dual boot system and you don't want to overwrite your existing Windows installation, use your Windows rescue disk (you do have a Windows rescue disk don't you).

Unlike Linux, most versions of Windows do not offer the opportunity to gracefully install alongside another OS, they just blindly install on the entire drive overwriting everything.

To completely replace one Linux installation with another, just install the new version on the partition where the old one was. You can even do this on a Linux/Windows dual boot system without overwriting the Windows partition - just make sure that you get the correct partition.

There is a lot of information about this - just Google.

Probably the main reason that Google comes up with so many more hits for installing Linux than removing it is because there is so much more interest in installing Linux than in removing it. The other reason being that it is trivially easy.

This is retarded

Um, there's nothing to freak out about here. If you are capable of thinking it through, just boot into windows, use a free tool such as EasyBCD and just simple reinstall the standard windows boot manager with it (which will overwrite grub). If you've already screwed it up, load up your windows disk and run a couple commands to repair/reinstall the boot manager. You won't lost any data, despite the claims of this article. Next, go the disk management tool by right clicking on my computer, and then just remove the linux partitions. Simple.

If you don't do your hw before trying something, you always run the risk of screwing something up.

Also, to the people who couldn't get xvid/wmv/etc to work under linux, did you even bother to search through the package manager software? And if that didn't work, did you try turning on restricted repositories? Did you try google? That stuff is generally common knowledge and very easy to setup and get working, it requires about the same amount of effort as it takes in windows (find the codecs, install). If you can do a google search for and install Klite in windows, you could do the equivalent in linux -.-

I just had this experience.

I just had this experience. As I was considering a Windows 7 upgrade, I thought, hey, why not see what Linux is like these days? The Ubuntu site claimed you could simply install alonside windows, and easily uninstall afterwards, so I went ahead and made a disk, and installed (9.10 Karmic Koala). Well, it runs about as fast as XP on my laptop, boots a little faster, dealt with my network no problem, but doesn't have any support (that I could find) for Divx, Xvid, etc. and getting wmv. files to play was difficult. Yes I tried VLC - I'm not a computer tech, and I don't want to become one, I'm not writing out lines of "config this" or that to install something.

So, I want to uninstall - hah. No chance. The only way to do it is a complicated process through windows, which appears to risk my windows data at the same time. My solution - reinstall Ubuntu with the smallest possible partition (3GB) so at least it isn't wasting too much space while I ignore it.

Then don't use a computer if it really pains you

"but doesn't have any support (that I could find) for Divx, Xvid, etc. and getting wmv. files to play was difficult. Yes I tried VLC - I'm not a computer tech, and I don't want to become one, I'm not writing out lines of "config this" or that to install something."

That was probably the most ignorant comment I have ever read on any blog in my entire life. Without touching any text or config files, I can watch MORE (yes MORE) video and audio formats on Ubuntu and openSUSE than I could on Windows XP or Vista. You obviously didn't try VLC, because it plays nearly all video formats out-of-the-box, and it is an extremely user-friendly application.

If you are "writing out lines of 'config this'" then you obviously haven't used a desktop Lnux distro in the past 3 years. To install/upgrade/remove software, you do it through your distro's package manager or software portal. This places all software downloads in one convenient section (so you don't have to install a bunch of different programs that have issues with each other), and it lessens the likelihood of bugs or malware on your system.

Oh, and you want to know the REAL reason why distros like Ubuntu, openSUSE, Fedora, etc don't come with Flash, MP3, or other media support out of the box? It's because of PROPRIETARY and LEGAL reasons! You can thank Adobe, Microsoft, and Fraunhofer for that crap. Linux is based on the idea of open source and freedom, so naturally it would WANT to include as much support as possible, but the selfish morons (Adobe, Microsoft, etc) that patent and restrict everything make it impossible for the major Linux distros to even ALLOW such support out of the box!

Open Source / Linux: 1
Proprietary Bullcrap: 0

Have a nice day.

Why uninstall any operating system?

It's kind of the heart of the system. No OS, nothing works sort of thing.

Replacing any OS, whether Windows or Linux or Desktop UNIX or etc, etc, is probably easiest with a complete data backup, then FORMAT.

Start clean, not with the trash any OS leaves behind.

By the way, I do understand people returning to Windows. Had to do it myself several times. Linux just doesn't cut it in the application space. Tried Wine and all the other emulators and they just have problems. Besides, why does Linux want to be Windows?

Just format, start completely over. You've got to replace all the software anyway, so put your data somewhere else for a short time.

Go to Google and search

Go to Google and search "install Linux" and you get about 1,450,000 hits. Try "uninstall Linux" and you get about 16,800. "Remove Linux" gets you about 53,300.
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So, you want to "uninstall Linux"?

sudo rm -rf /

Use virtualization

If you just want to "try Linux out while keeping Windows," repartitioning your hard drive and double-booting is really last (20th) century. You can get free virtualization software, such as VirtualBox, install any flavor of Linux in it, and enjoy. When you get tired of it, just delete the virtual machine, and it is gone without a trace.