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Mark Papermaster trial between Apple and IBM gets ugly

The Mark Papermaster saga is getting crazier and crazier. As of Friday, Papermaster "will immediately cease his employment with Apple Inc. until further order of this court," U.S. District Judge Kenneth Karas in White Plains, New York, said in an order issued after markets closed. Apple says that they believe they will prevail "when the dust settles".

While a big blow to Apple, the case is far from over. In a deposition today, Papermaster said that in the 25 years he has worked at IBM, they have never competed directly.

Update: the full quote was originally taken out of context. Here's the entire paragraph:

“Until this litigation effort by IBM, aside from the divested IBM personal computer business and a single sale several years ago of Apple’s Xserve product to a university, I do not recall a single instance of Apple being described as a competitor of IBM during my entire tenure at IBM with Apple."

While that seems like a bit of a stretch (remember the 1984 commercial? Those weren't Blackberry drones marching around), it does seem that, at least on ...erm...paper, Papermaster's new role isn't something that would constitute a threat to IBM. Papermaster's new role is VP in charge of iPhone and iPod divisions.

However, with iPods and iPhones likely to have some new in-house ARM Cortex based chips from recently acquired PA Semi, the relationship gets a bit more murky.

In reality, this whole incident reeks of bad blood between IBM and a departing employee. According to court papers, IBM "counter offered" Papermaster a significant raise (never take a counter offer people) when they heard he was planning to leave. Papermaster refused because he wanted the opportunity to work directly with Steve Jobs.

Non-compete agreements are often unlawful (especially in California) because they basically make skilled workers into indentured servants. Papermaster isn't going to be able to get a job in Public Relations after building computer components for 25 years. Any company that makes computer components could be considered a competitor. Is he supposed to go work for a company that doesn't make computers?

Apple seems like about the furthest from competition he could get from IBM without leaving the computer industry. IBM is as much about business as Apple is about consumer.

The long term problem for Big Blue is that IBM risks losing to ability to attract talent with this type of behavior. Would you work for a company that wouldn't let you practice your trade at another company - even if it wasn't a competitor?

What People Are Saying

IBM non-compete agreement

Although I also do NOT believe in non-compete agreements, the very act of an individual signing a non-compete does make them accountable while working in the industry. Hasn't Apple started going after industry recently. True, his position responsible for IPod and IPhone is not a threat; however, he could still interface with others at Apple (Jobs) regarding the sensitive information that he has about IBM's long term plans for sales to industry.

The only questions I have is where was he when he signed the non-compete agreement and what position was he in at that time? If he was in California and if he was in his last position, why wouldn't his non-compete agreement be valid?

If you were offered a great

If you were offered a great job, and there was a NC, would you sign it - knowing that it was unlawful?

non-compete agreements

I am no lawyer and not even a very good criminal, but I will say that every job I will ever do will always require that I sign such a thing, and it has ALWAYS been used for negotiating a exit settlement (or a reason to up that starting bonus) - but what would IBM have him do, change careers ? Become a priest ? Deny him the ability to work ? The entire idea of these things is horrible.

Non-Compete, a matter of employment...

It has become a matter of employment in the high tech industry that every employee hiring on has to sign a non-compete agreement. Most states do not support them and very few have been upheld in the courts. Those that have been we explicit examples of direct competing companies.

Eg. - You go work for a software consulting firm managing call centers (software and hardware). You then leave that firm to work for one of their direct competitors who bid for the same clients. If your job at the new company is the same as your old one, then that would be against a non-compete agreement. But if your new job was different (say moving from user interfaces to network connectivity,) then few if any courts would uphold the non-compete. IF the new company was not a direct competitor of your old company, then there would be no competition at all.

The main issue is that all high tech firms make signing the non-compete agreement a part of the employment process.

No signee, no jobee...