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Seeing Through Windows

Microsoft honcho: Vista is the "most secure OS on the planet"

Microsoft has thrown down the gauntlet to Linux and Mac OS X users: It now claims that Vista is more secure than any operating system ever created, including Linux and Mac OS X.

At the Midmarket CIO Summit last week, Kevin Turner, chief operating officer for Microsoft, gave a speech about the role of CIOs in a changing economy. The second half of his talk was largely a sales pitch for Microsoft, and in it, he had this to say about the safety of Windows compared to other operating systems:

Vista today, post-Service Pack 2, which is now in the marketplace, is the safest, most reliable OS we've ever built. It's also the most secure OS on the planet, including Linux and open source and Apple Leopard. It's the safest and most secure OS on the planet today.

Even a Windows fan like me can't swallow that one. I've spent countless hours installing and reviewing security software for Windows --- anti-virus software, anti-malware, firewalls, and complete security suites. You don't see that kind of big market for Linux and Mac OS X because there simply aren't as many threats to those operating systems.

It's certainly true that because Windows has by far the largest market share, malware writers are going to target Windows rather than the Mac or Linux. So more people are trying to break into it than are trying to break into Mac or Linux machines. Just that fact alone means that Windows is less secure than its rivals.

Engaging in this kind of hyperbole doesn't really do Microsoft any good. Last week, I wrote that Microsoft was engaging more in propaganda than facts when it detailed the price of the "Apple tax," that people pay when they buy a Mac. There is, in fact, an Apple tax, but Microsoft far overstated how much that tax is. When it comes to security, the company seems to be following suit.

What People Are Saying

Windows VS Mac OS X, Linux, everyone-else

You commented that there is "less" malware for Mac OS X and Linux. Please indicate "one", only one malware program for Linux, or FreeBSD based computers.

It has become tiresome and particularly absurd that Windows supporters continually use ridiculous and false claims for reasons windows is so security averse. Marketshare is a non-issue, since Apache has approximately three times the market share of Microsoft IIS, but less than one percent of IIS security vulnerabilities.

Please get a life outside of brown-nosing Microsoft.

W. Anderson
wanderson@kimalcorp.org

I laugh so hard that I've

I laugh so hard that I've peed my pants

Most secure?

It might be the most secure if Vista isn't running any programs but that would be true of Apple OS and Linux too.

Microsoft needs to secure their APPLICATIONS more than anything. They need to make it harder for malware writers to exploit applications on a PC. One way I can think of is to get rid of the stupid registry. That right there is an index of all the installed applications on a PC. It sure would be alot slower for a piece of malware to search a hard drive for a program to exploit than to search the registry.

One word: Conficker.

The Conficker virus is affecting in the 10's of millions of Windows computers rigt now!. Youre vulnarable to Conficker even if you have NO software installed.
So Vista, as any windows version, is the most insecure OS in history.
The fact that its a commercial piece of software makes it even worse. All the "non-paying" users cant fix the security bug and so millions of computers (all running MS Windows) are spreading the virus because "they didnt pay(tm)".
That fact alone makes MS Windows a pain in the internets backside and you wont find a moronic policy like that on Linux or BSD.

So secure? Not now and probably never.

Ballmer clone?

Vista today, post-Service Pack 2, which is now in the marketplace, is the safest, most reliable OS we've ever built. It's also the most secure OS on the planet, including Linux and open source and Apple Leopard. It's the safest and most secure OS on the planet today.

Sounds like the kind of hyperbolic bombast spouted by Ballmer. Will this Turner dude replace him when the stockholders demand the bald head of its current CEO?

All quibbles aside

Let's just give them that for a minute.

I was talking to someone today who regularly has to work on Vista Systems. She said "The users complain about all the permission questions so I disable it for them. I do warn them that I'm destroying their security, but they don't care."

So - I bet a goodly percentage of Vista boxes have been set just that way. What does THAT do for Microsoft's argument?

Compared to what?

Microsoft operating systems aren't even in the same league as say:

IBM MVS with RACF or ACF2, or
Wang's STOP

when it comes to security.

It doesn't really matter what qualification Microsoft wants to wrap around this latest exaggeration, they were bested for OS security long before they ever released a GUI and they haven't caught up.

Why is it the computer industry can never learn from the lessons of yesteryear???

Definitely

People don't understand it. But IBM's built secure operating systems for decades. The best is probably IBM i (previously incarnated as OS/400, i5/OS, et al). They even paid a group of Russian hackers to try to break in. The system couldn't be breached.

As others have stated about operating systems, some are built with security in mind from the start--others it's an afterthought. If the core architecture of the system isn't designed with security in mind, there will always be challenges trying to make it secure. Take a look at the security/vulnerability advisories posted. There are maybe 10 total. No other operating system can compare to that. MS just patched 23 vulnerabilities this week.

'Vista is the "most secure

'Vista is the "most secure OS on the planet"'

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!

To quote The Joker,

"And I thought *my* jokes were bad !".

Well now its official,

Well now its official, Microsoft is talking out of their non-existent @$$.