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MS mocks Europe: Windows 7E, sans IE, in EU, per EC

Microsoft has revealed its plan for unbundling IE from Windows 7 in the Europe Union (EU). In IT Blogwatch, Richi Jennings watches bloggers react and wonder if Microsoft isn't just giving European Commission (EC) regulators the finger.

Does anyone seriously think this idea is actually going to resolve the original complaint? Anyone? Bueller?

Not to mention stuff for people who love charts...

Emil Protalinski summarizes the plan:

Microsoft has announced that it will ship a special version of Vista's successor in Europe, titled Windows 7 E, without Internet Explorer 8. The browser-less version, a reaction to an antitrust investigation by the EU into whether Microsoft is abusing its dominant position with Windows and Internet Explorer, will be distributed in all member nations.
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This means that none of the versions of Windows 7 sold in Europe will include a Microsoft's browser. ... OEMs will have the option to add the browser back in, ship another browser, or ship multiple browsers. ... Consumers who purchase retail copies will not have a browser that they can use to download a browser. Therefore, Microsoft will offer IE8 via CD, FTP, and retail channels.more


Gavin Clarke boggles:

Microsoft's tactic in these matters is to ship product before the legal machinery makes its decision, making the situation a fait accompli. Indeed, Microsoft's already informed OEMs of its plans just as they start preparing for Windows 7's October 22 launch. But product segmentation on Windows 7 is likely to do little to address rivals' real concerns.more


Pamela Jones groks it:

My first reaction was, I guess that means you actually can remove the browser and Windows will still run, despite what Microsoft told the court in the US. My second was, if OEMs can choose to install IE, why wouldn't Microsoft just sit on them in various subtle ways to make sure it's in their best interests to always "choose" to install IE?
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If, for example, Windows 7 E came with all the major browsers ready to connect to a download, at the customer's choice, as in even all of the above, why wouldn't that work? But if IE is easy to install and nothing else is, then what? And if it's left up to Microsoft-dependent OEMs to choose, then what? And what skeptics will be wondering is this: Is Microsoft trying to replicate the failure of the Window N remedy?more


Todd Bishop talked to Opera's CTO:

"I don't think what they have announced today is going to get them off the hook." [said] Hakon Wium Lie ... "I don't think this is going to correct all of what we think is illegal behavior -- the tying over the years. ... I don't think this is going to restore competition. I think restoring competition is one of the goals of the European Commission. So I don't think this is the end of the case."
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In the court of public opinion, one challenge for Opera is that the browser market has become more competitive already, without government intervention. Microsoft's worldwide market share was 65.5 percent in May ... down from more than 73 percent a year ago.more


Microsoft's Dave Heiner chooses his words carefully:

We’re committed to making Windows 7 available in Europe at the same time that it launches in the rest of the world. ... Given the pending legal proceeding, we’ve decided that instead of including Internet Explorer in Windows 7 in Europe, we will offer it separately and on an easy-to-install basis. ... Computer manufacturers and users will be free to install Internet Explorer on Windows 7, or not, as they prefer.
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Other alternatives have been raised in the Commission proceedings, including possible inclusion in Windows 7 of alternative browsers or a “ballot screen” that would prompt users to choose from a specific set of Web browsers. Important details of these approaches would need to be worked out in coordination with the Commission, since they would have a significant impact on computer manufacturers and Web browser vendors, whose interests may differ.more


Sean Ridgeley is ever the pragmatist:

From here, manufacturers will have the option to put the browser back in, install another, or install multiple browsers. ... The tricky part is for manufacturers who choose to ship the OS without a browser -- for customers who purchase a copy as such at retail, it's not exactly simple to find a browser if you're browser-less, and the average user is most likely not going to know it's even possible.
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If sense prevails, though, manufacturers will simply offer a browser (any browser) with the OS -- we're pretty sure most people would rather even IE than any hassle, to start with.more


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What People Are Saying

a finger deserves a thumb

So what if Microsoft ships a browserless Windows?

EU ISPs need only email their customers How-To information on using FTP (or wget) to download the browser of their choice.

Sure it's a bit of effort, but wouldn't it be worth it to thumb one's nose at the overbearing vendor giving one the finger? Makes for a good ongoing news story too.

Alternatively, as AOL shipped scads of CDs over the years, maybe a joint effort by the browser vendors could put out a browser-of-your-choice CD/DVD as a freebie on magazines, at computer shops and as a download to be burned to disk before the new PC is installed.

When the world deals lemons,...

I can't think of a better opportunity to show the world that the early and continuing innovators on the web are made of better stuff.

One might even put IE8 on the CD/DVD to prove who took the high road.

If Microsoft keeps on their typical path, they could find themselves in a spot like IBM landed in 1984 (http://www.cptech.org/at/ibm/ibm1984ec.html). I don't know if this was a result of not adhering to their 1956 consent decree or not (http://www.cptech.org/at/ibm/ibm1956cd.html).

Opera: A Marketplace Failure

Opera is a marketplace failure. People don't want it.

The rise of Firefox has proven that government intervention is not needed to be competitive with IE.

I am glad to see a new

I am glad to see a new Windows without that horrible crap of IE. Microsoft does not mock the EC, it has just chosen the moronic path, it could have offered a simple setup of its browser or of its competitors on the desktop, bundled several of them, etc, the EC point was to untie the browser from the OS, and it has succeeded where the US anti-trust "justice" failed miserably (Microsoft just had to lie them saying that it was "impossible" to remove its browser from its OS).

false on it's face

That's correct. The claim that IE is part of the operating system should have been enough to get Microsoft laughed out of the courtroom and roundly ridiculed in the press and by the man on the street.

The fact that this didn't happen is disturbing, and demonstrates to me that there is no competition for Microsoft in the computer industry.

I'm sorry, but I've

I'm sorry, but I've personally never had a problem with IE. I don't use it very much, if at all, but if the EC is suggesting that Microsoft as a business should bundle the COMPETITORS' products into their own, that is totally ridiculous. IE being bundled with Windows isn't stopping me from using any other browser. In fact, it makes downloading firefox and google chrome (NOT Opera) much much easier.

On a side note, nobody is telling Apple not to bundle Safari or iTunes with OS X. Hm?

Yes, but...

Yes, Microsoft could have done that, but the result would have been a faster erosion of IE's share of the market.

Anti-Microsoft?

If selling Windows 7 without IE is still not enough, then I personally think that EC and other browser makers are just trying to make Microsoft's life difficult. Other browser makers just wanna ride on the sales on Windows. If EC wants SEVERAL browsers to be shipped together with Windows 7, then how many browsers are actually enough? Does SEVERAL bowsers means 2, 3 or all existing browsers that exist today? Or does SEVERAL means Opera?
Then, what about the Media Players? Should Windows 7 ship SEVERAL Media players with it as well??

Don't be so naïve

Oh come on.

Don't let Microsoft's spin blind you to the reality: Microsoft is offering OEMs a choice to include IE or not. How many major OEMs do you think will choose not to install IE?

My bet: none of them, for obvious customer-satisfaction reasons. Some may add alternative browsers, but they've been theoretically able to do that for several years, since U.S. lawmakers forced them to.

(I'm ignoring retail sales -- they are minuscule compared with OEM pre-installs.)