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Eric Ogren

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Let's Archive the SEM Market

I have always regarded Security Event Management (SEM) as the most dysfunctional segment in the security industry. SEM vendors would always preach rapid response and attack prevention, even though they only examine log file entries written long after the attack has come and gone. Then they tried to promote being the independent command and control center, but of course they cannot control other vendor's products as effectively as the vendors themselves can. I used to think I was missing something obvious, but now, after reading comments from my good friend Mike Rothman and fellow re-born analyst Richard Steinnon, I realize that I am not alone. It has just been a brain-dead market segment. Now that Novell has bought e-Security, what can SEM be good at?

The answer is that SEM can be a good place to collect, filter, and manage audit logs of corporate activity. You wouldn't think of running your business without independent corporate auditing, you shouldn't think of running IT without auditing. Yes, the me-too marketers will trumpet compliance as the compelling reason to buy their product. They will be better served by thinking of themselves as IT auditing systems, of which security is just a component. This means the vendors should also be looking to collect and correlate events from business process sources such as application servers, web servers, and authentication systems. This adds data management, search, and reporting of active event archives to the real-time data collection capability. The intelligence gained would be appropriate for the C-suite. Yes, compliance is a benefit, but it is not the reason for SEM to exist.

Ducks do not fly well, swim well, or walk well, but there's a place in the world for ducks. The Security Information Management (SIM) space has needed redefinition for years. It would be nice if SEM can show how security integrates with and enables open business processes. Then perhaps there can be a true SEM acquisition binge.

What People Are Saying

As one of the few (perhaps

As one of the few (perhaps only) vendors that promotes SIEM as a network defense technology, I do take exception to the position that all products in this space "only examine log file entries written long after the attack has come and gone".

This sounds like a description of a forensic analysis tool, which is certainly the most common perception and the origin of many SIM products.

I certainly agree that the market segment would be well served by new definitions and a fresh approach - one that moves beyond the forensic roots and delivers more than a log aggregation and regulatory compliance value proposition.

The reality is that SIEM products are uniquely positioned in the network to monitor and correlate (the key) activity in near real-time, across layers, and with an enterprise-wide perspective.

In mid-market organizations that don't have the luxury of 24/7 NOCs or dedicated security analysts, SIEM's real-time analysis and active response capabilities are a way to extend the IT team. This crosses network management, security management and IT audit and compliance boundaries.

Wow, this is sooo right on -

Wow, this is sooo right on - you wouldn't believe it!

very good topics and allways

very good topics and allways very well informed thanks to computerworld. My hat off to you all

Eric, Your name took me by

Eric,

Your name took me by surprise. My name is Robert Ogren B. Ogren came from Ireland. I have relatives in the Chicago area. Send me an e-mail if you want to discuss.

Hi Robert, Pleased to meet

Hi Robert,

Pleased to meet you. My context is actually Swedish, with a free pass to be Irish (O'Gren :) on St Patty's Day. Always nice to catch up with another Ogren - doesn't happen very often! Thanks for the note.

Eric

One of our very talented and

One of our very talented and innovative software engineers specializes in this segment, and is doing quite well in spite of Mr. Ogren's opinions. With the right tools and imagination, hackers are slowly becomming a threat of the past. Look up the Honeynet project at www.honeynet.org to see what I mean. Hackers are still out there in great numbers, but they are about to get duped...every last one of them.

That is outstanding! I have

That is outstanding! I have seen a lot in over a dozen years of security, and I don't know too many people that would claim to make attacks a thing of the past based on event logs and honey pots. You are fortunate to have such a talented engineer on your team!