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A Daily Digest of IT Blogs from Richi Jennings

Microsoft: "Waaah! Linux stole our IP" (and 1337 DVD)

In today's IT Blogwatch, Microsoft's Steve Ballmer claims all your IP are belong to us. Not to mention the IT Crowd DVD's subtitles...

Eric Lai wouldn't let it lay:

In comments confirming the open-source community's suspicions, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Thursday declared his belief that the Linux operating system infringes on Microsoft's intellectual property. In a question-and-answer session after his keynote speech at the Professional Association for SQL Server (PASS) conference in Seattle, Ballmer said Microsoft was motivated to sign a deal with SUSE Linux distributor Novell earlier this month because Linux "uses our intellectual property" and Microsoft wanted to "get the appropriate economic return for our shareholders from our innovation."
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A key element of the agreement now appears to be Novell's US$40 million payment to Microsoft in exchange for the latter company's pledge not to sue SUSE Linux users over possible patent violations.

Todd Bishop has more:

An audience member turned the question around on Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, asking if the Redmond company was selling out by collaborating with a Linux vendor. Ballmer answered the question with a long explanation of the Novell deal, from his perspective ... it will be interesting to see how people react to Ballmer's comments on Microsoft, Linux and intellectual property -- including his view that, because of the Novell deal, "only a (Linux) customer who has Suse Linux actually has paid properly for the use of intellectual property from Microsoft."

Additionally, he reiterated Microsoft's interest in striking a similar patent deal with Red Hat, something Red Hat says it won't do.

Read on for the complete text. (Here's an MP3, as well: 6:01, 6.9 mb.)

Aaron, for one, welcomes his new Redmond overlords:

Just finished the keynote with Ballmer... a few observations.

1. He must've researched the question about Microsoft partnering with Novell on Suse Linux. That was too well done.
2. Steve Ballmer is a funny looking man, and his voice does weird things as he talks.
3. He didn't really do a dance, though he almost did. Sort of a weird flex/body contortion. He's like the Jim Carrey of Microsoft.

Shane Coyle calls Novell an "Open source turncoat":

I thought Novell said there were no Infractions. Or so it was stated in their FAQ on the MS Deal. Of course, as always with any story, there is Mr Ballmer’s take on the deal ... And so it begins, the gauntlet is down - who draws the first MS lawsuit? Red Hat? Oracle? EDU-Nix? Let us all remember who it is that is complicit in this FUD campaign, Novell’s self-serving deal legitimizes Microsoft’s assault on Linux.

If successful, Microsoft will create a landscape in the Operating System market that consists of themselves and MS-approved ‘competitors’ which pay royalties to MS in perpetuity, all others are sued into oblivion. Regardless of the technical wording of the deal, and whether it can be established that Novell is violating the letter of the GPL 2, they are certainly violating its spirit, Novell must not be supported.

Pamela Jones is still glad to talk about something other than SCO:

Unfortunately, Microsoft has misunderstood how the GPL works, and where it stands on the issue of patents, if one gives Microsoft every benefit of every doubt. The folks they need to speak to are the Software Freedom Law Center. Like they're not already. But here's my suggestion anyway: stop trying to kill or sidestep the GPL. And stop trying to put a patent tax on Linux, so you or some surrogate gets a cut. Monopolies don't get to do just whatever enters their pretty little head, you know. Make your money on your own code, fair and square. There. I've said it
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The execution was outstanding, in a jujitsu kind of terrible way. The problem is the idea. You're trying to put new wine into old wineskins, as the saying goes, and it won't work. It can't. There will be no way to divide GPL developers into paid and not paid. Won't fly. Ever. There are other issues too. You can't restrict redistribution on GPL code. Period. You can't ask for royalties on GPL code. You can't add any restrictions to the GPL license. Seriously, you need to read the GPL and abide by it in all particulars, just like we have to respect your terms on your software. It's a matter of respecting what you call intellectual property. Explain that to your shareholders.

Microsoft's Jason Matusow responds:

I know many of you are skeptical about this process, and a few are even outright hostile ... I will continue to have an ongoing dialogue with a few key community members and these comments will inform those discussions. I will make sure your voices are heard as we go through our decision making. One thing that jumped out at me about many of these postings is the sense that a lack of trust in our motivations is a key factor for you all. I am unclear as to why then it is a problem for us to clarify something so that motivations are not an issue.

Jeff Licquia tries to help:

The big problem, if you ask me, is the distinction between “commercial” and “non-commercial” that Matusow (and everyone else I hear from Microsoft) is making. In our world, that distinction is a lot less important than the distinction between “proprietary” and “open”. For us, “commercial” is just another way software can be used, and restrictions on commercial use are like restrictions on use by women, or by people in Illinois, or by people who have ever picked their nose in public. Why are businessmen any less deserving of our software as a class than housewives, or Haitians, or other free software developers?

Matusow claims not to be interested in any of this

Kyle Shank puts it succinctly:

Ballmer can go f*** himself ... Sure Steve, all innovation had to originate from Microsoft. That’s like saying you don’t have a chronic sweating condition.

[For the latest on this story, see Novell to Ballmer: No patent problems here (and stupid CIO)]

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Richi Jennings is an independent technology and marketing consultant, specializing in email, blogging, Linux, and computer security. A 20 year, cross-functional IT veteran, he is also an analyst at Ferris Research. Contact Richi at blogwatch@richij.com. Have you tried turning it off and on again?

What People Are Saying

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Rated -11
289 Votes

#1 - software cannot be

#1 - software cannot be patented, it can be under copyright protection.
#2 - only a software alorithm is allowed patent protection.
#3 - A patent has a life of 17 years from date of issue.
#4 - A patent cannot be enforced against prior art (work done by someone before the patent was granted, known or unknown).
#5 - Even though a patent may have been granted, unfortunately the patent office does not always have the most technologically up to date examiners. the patent could have been issued without realizing that the design would be obvious to anyone skilled in the art and therfore not patentable.
#6 - US patent law is not enforceable in many other countries around the world. To enforce a patent in Japan, for example, you would have had to file for a patent on the item in Japan.
This appears to be another way for Microsoft to use its swagger to try to keep the revenue stream open. After all, they have nothing new to offer for the future; so instead of writing software it is taking to smoke and mirrors, mumbo jumbo and voodoo to make money.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for patents and their enforcement, but if you believe Microsoft you may have to watch your step, they may next claim that they patented grass.

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Rated +35
315 Votes

M$ has a long range problem

M$ has a long range problem of keeping profits up for stockholders. Going after Linux is a way to help that. People don't see the need to upgrade to the latest and greatest from MS.
I don't see how M$ can have all these patents when Unix was originally written at Bell Labs. Seems like M$ might have some invalid patents and copyright infringement problems.
Also, IBM and some others were writing operating systems 30 years before M$ was even a thought. Seems like there could again be some copyright infringements from those companies.
M$ latest move with Vista saying older versons of SQL Server and MSDE won't or may not run on Vista certainly give all users an opportunity to take a had look at what other vendors have to offer. Also, they were originally requiring that Vista could only be loaded on the machine it came on, and not on a replacement machine. Well, that backfired on them. Also, DirectX 10 will run on XP, but M$ changed the licensing where you cannot run it except on Vista.
I think M$ sees that they don't have much more latest and greatest to offer long term, so the better grab every dime they can now.
With Vista basically requiring users buy new machines so it can run (at least slowly) and M$ not moving their SQL Server version forward, looks like some desparate attempts to keep profits up.
Not everyone cares about the latest software from M$, I just wrote an Access progam for a company still using Access 97. Sure they should probably upgrade, but it is doing the job for them.
Remember, if your current system is doing what you need in the time frame you need it, technology has not passed you by, but only moved beyond where you are. Technology only passes you by when your current system will not give you want you want in the time frame you need it.

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Rated +37
313 Votes

I heard from a "reliable"

I heard from a "reliable" sources, next week M$ are going to file the idea of creating an Operating System to all patent office worldwide.

Disclaimer: This whole statement, including the Disclaimer is a joke.

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Rated +26
312 Votes

Novell has been competing

Novell has been competing with Microsoft since 1983. M$ has been a cheater since 1980s. Red Hat rookies just got some bark on the tree. Scar tissue... a painful way to learn.

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Rated +6
286 Votes

Steve Ballmer just elected

Steve Ballmer just elected himself the major FUDdy-duddy of Microsoft with those words.

Seriously,
software patents are just another word for major business fraud,
software patents aren't worth anything - but they cost,
software patents are just Monkey Boy spouting off,
software patents are merely a programmer's dead loss.
(to the tune of "Freedom ain't worth nothing - but it's free")

Europeans should consider that software patents constitute a Non-Tariff Trade Barrier, and take the US to the WTO.

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Rated -17
315 Votes

No empire that is can live

No empire that is can live forever.
The world is changing. (like the climate)
World is bored with the empires.
Thinking about JUST money is not to good idea.
Why not say M$: Ok you're try racing... Lets go!

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305 Votes

Hey, so are there patents

Hey, so are there patents owned by m$ in Linux, well a good start to find out is to find someone who decides they don`t want Linux now because of what m$ has said re patents. And say that deprived you of a $20 install fee or whatever, so a quick call to a small claims settlement court ( or equivalent depending on the country your in ) to claim from m$ $20 for damages... or get m$ to defend themselves by proving what they are saying.

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Rated +28
316 Votes

Rock On

Rock On AngelFourtyOne.........That's the spirit...!

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321 Votes

So today Novell does a ton

So today Novell does a ton of backpedalling.

We disagree... yatta yatta yatta...

"We may disagree" said the Devil to the dealmaker "but your soul still belongs to me".

Same old story, the arrogance was inadvertently let out. Hold on to your wallets boys....

Let me state at the outset that I am not an anarchist. I just don't believe nor will I stand for feudalism. We kicked the last guy out in 1776.

If Linux was based on unix, why can't we create another language, Mr. Torvald did it? Lets make this language from scratch. let it run on but not work on the same old OSI model. Let it operate without acknowledging current networking standards but specifically and exclusively around them. Now register it in a country unbound by US or EU trade agreements and declare it open source from birth! Come on all you degreed programmers! Consider the gauntlet tossed. I bet the language does not come from any technical institute or university in the US. Now prove me wrong, I dare you. Make sure your country of registration is in a non US or EU trade agreement governed country and declare it free. Enough of this manipulation already. I say it can be done,
but what do I know?

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302 Votes

M$ has a tough case. They

M$ has a tough case. They claim patent infringment, but there is one critical difference in Linux. IT WORKS. Maybe Red Hat should try patenting that?

IP patents are a total joke. It is a contrivance of lawyers to make money, as if copywrite law wasn't sufficient to cover code, we now patent ideas. You don't have to be the first to think of it, just the first to have your lawyer write it up and file it!

What a joke!