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Seeing Through Windows

Will bad backups doom Windows Home Server?

Microsoft just announced it's working on Windows Home Server, which among other features, will automatically back up files on all PCs in the home. But if the product uses the same kind of brain-dead backup built into Windows Vista, this is a product that will be dead on arrival.

The backup tool built into Windows Vista may be the worst utility every packed into an operating system. It doesn't allow you to back up individual files, folders or even file types. Instead, you have to back up every single file and folder of broad generic types.

For example, if you want to back up a single picture, you have to back up every single graphic of every graphic file type on your entire PC, including all the graphics that Vista itself uses. This means you can be forced to back up hundreds of gigabytes of files if you only want to back up a few family photos.

Don't be surprised if Microsoft uses this same technique with Windows Home Server. I've talked to Microsoft honchos about the awful backup in Windows Vista, and they insist they did it because they didn't want to confuse people with too many choices about backup.

Considering that Windows Home Server will be aimed at the broadest possible audience, Microsoft may well use the same twisted logic there as well.

If so, that would be too bad. The day of the connected home with multiple PCs has been with us for years, and many of us badly need some kind of inexpensive, easy-to-manage central file server. It would be too bad if Microsoft crippled it by basing it on bad backup software.

What People Are Saying

Well, don't you look silly

Well, don't you look silly now that the details of how WHS does it's backups is well known.

Anyone know why computer

Anyone know why computer retailers do not include a backup of all software on a new computer? Please let me know. Thanks

Low cost backup for Windoze:

Low cost backup for Windoze: Tivoli Storage Manager Express...

combined with Continuous Data Protection...

About as bullet proof as a SOHO user can get. Works for me.

That's by no means the worst

That's by no means the worst utility ever packaged with an operating system. It's not even the worst utility ever packaged with a Microsoft operating system.

I think the crown jewels still belong to that most misleadingly-named of utilities, RECOVER, which did two things:

- emptied the root directory
- linked every complete chain in the FAT into a new file named something like (IIRC) '000001.REC' in the root directory. Some of those `files' were, of course, actually directories, now happily rendered as regular files and more or less useless.

Of course the root directory had a fixed size so in the end it ran out of room (if you had more than a couple of hundred files on the disk).

What a good recovery tool it was, as long as you wanted to lose your data without warning.

RECOVER was routinely

RECOVER was routinely removed from every PC we ever used lest some poor soul lose a file and think that that program had anything to do with their being able to bring it back.

Of course, anyone who remembers the RECOVER command remembers when you needed enough previously-formatted floppy disks to backup your hard disk. And woe unto you if you needed one more floppy than you thought you'd need. Format some more floppies and start the backup all over. Once we got to 20+MB hard disks, we went to tape and backup software that actually worked.

I feel sorry for the folks that run out and buy huge hard disks for their Windows systems. How on earth do they ever backup their documents, photos, etc.?

But it would be normal -

But it would be normal - Microsoft has supplied a variety of backup options from when DOS was king of the hill till now, and none of them have been really useful. This is why people like myself write long involved BATCH files to control what is backed up, and how it's stored (PKZIP command line is very good, as is RAR command line, etc.)

Let's face it - Microsoft's software usually does work - none of it - Windows included - is all that well designed from a useability point of view. Arcane commands, insane layouts of options, Wizards that aren't, and so on and so on....

And now Linux is trying to imitate Windows. Poor bastards.

See also today's IT

See also today's IT Blogwatch:
I'll be your Windows Home Server (and fool!)

Having moved our data backup

Having moved our data backup from in-house tape-based backup to outsourced backup, we are able to regularly test our backups to ensure they're working - tough to do with automated tape backup systems. Our managed backup vendor provided an onsite disk-backup server which keeps a copy of all site backup data locally, then transmits our encrypted backup data over the WAN to their offsite data vault. We reviewed a number of service providers that offer this service, including eVault, LiveVault and AmeriVault and decided to go with AmeriVault because of their onsite/offsite backup storage and ability to restore our enterprise applications in addition to file and database data... with all patches restored as well!!! Cool stuff. AmeriVault uses a backup service software platform developed by Asigra which has been around for 20 years so they've had some practice.