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Shark Tank: But that's not me!

The 100 PCs in this law office are locked down to prevent users from downloading software or changing configurations. That's why one IT pilot fish spends the whole weekend updating software on the PCs, logging into each one as administrator before doing the installation.

"After working into the wee hours all weekend long, I came in Monday morning to a rash of people screaming because they couldn't get on their computers," says fish.

Maybe there was a power outage over the weekend, fish thinks, so she immediately runs down to check the server cabinets. But everything is running fine.

After spending half an hour checking everything she can on the network, fish finally goes looking for a user and asks exactly what happens when he tries to log on.

"He told me that he couldn't enter his password because the username had changed to 'administrator,'" fish says.

"With gritted teeth, I told him to delete 'administrator' and put in his initials, which he did -- and things worked just fine.

"I then spent the rest of the hour walking around explaining to all the users having problems that they needed to do the same thing.

"We've had the system for four years now, and they log off every night, but they hadn't ever bothered to look at their usernames at log-on -- they just entered their passwords."

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What People Are Saying

Hey fred I think you just

Hey fred I think you just made every phacker pop their load. That sounds highly mineable.
Now where do you work??? never mind, it'll be fun fishin' for that too.
wonder why everyone else wants to be anonymous....

We solved this problem here

We solved this problem here many years ago. We have a registry hack that we keep on a drive for support folks - you copy it onto a folder the user doesn't use (C:\Options) in our case, and it's hidden on newer builds), and on each PC, you change the default login ID to the ID of the user who is primary on that PC, and the domain to the enterprise domain (so it's not the local machine and the administrator). Then when you're done with the updates, you click on that registry file, it overwrites the last login, and the next user is the regular user. I'll clipboard the entire hack here - it works in both Win2K and WinXP.
call the file ResetUserID, give it a .REG extension:-----------
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
"DefaultUserName"="put username here"
"DefaultDomainName"="put enterprise domain here"
------------------------
That's it. I didn't write it, but it's used everywhere in our population of 3000+ workstations.

Our users have to log in

Our users have to log in with two initials of their office, their cost center, and their initials. SS947JM for example. Systems reset after ANYONE logs in. We have a few 'tards but mostly it's just expected to use your login everywhere you want network access.

Too many folks find fault

Too many folks find fault with the tech. Let me see if I got this straight. I spend all weekend updating PCs and the first thing I hear from one user on Monday is they can't log in. I'd expect it was something I did and not ask too many questions, especially if several others say the same thing. It's human nature and I suspect 95% of the folks complaining here would have jumped to exactly the same, wrong conclusion.

Big surprise! I work in IT

Big surprise! I work in IT and still don't remember my user code half the time (although I do notice if it has been changed to Administrator). In all fairness to the users, why should they know it? Their computer is a tool to do a job, not their reason for being there. Normally their user name comes up automatically and they do nothing with it, so it is just techno-babble on the screen.

About two hours ago I dealt

About two hours ago I dealt with a user who logs into a computer in a common area and has no problem remembering that she needed to change her login ID back. What surprised me was that, since she had only logged into one particular computer in that common area, she was sure she could ONLY use that computer. She's been using that one computer for over four years!

What I am amazed at is that

What I am amazed at is that in one day this one garnered 5 pages worth of comments!

I do have to admit that I remember my username and password, but sometimes have trouble remembering the domain name.

I wouldn't mind typing in

I wouldn't mind typing in the users id (LESS PASSWORD!!!!!!) if the login screen would remember it. So, is it a security issue, or poor coding, that makes this impossible?

What's really pathetic is

What's really pathetic is logging on to each P.C. as an administrator rather than using domain policies. I'm not saying I don't hate windoze, but if you are forced to deal with it, learn how.

At one company, tech staff

At one company, tech staff had to use a learn&burn id, as Admin did not have network access rights. Every time we used for updates, the learn&burn id, it would get security violated out of the system because 100% of the users didn't bother to change it. This happened every time, every person, every 6 months.

They refused to learn.