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Round 4: H-1B WAR - IEEE-USA vs. Bill Gates!

Bill Gates draws first-blood while IEEE raises an army of engineers in the pivotal fourth round of the H-1B battle of the Immigration Reform bill war.

In his opening move, the world's richest man strikes hard at American engineering careers by testifying before congress in favor of unlimited H-1B visas.  Bill's prestidigitatory presentation sought to somehow convince lawmakers that the best way to encourage American students to enter engineering is to import more engineers from other countries. 

First, he says, we must "place a major emphasis on encouraging careers in math and science".  Then he suggests opening the flood gates to foreign engineers by eliminating the cap completely, "So even though it may not be realistic, I don't think there should be any limit".  Sadly, there were no challenges to this point by the committee.  Not one Congressman or Senator suggested that increasing the cap might further discourage students from entering the engineering field. 

Despite studies which show there is no shortage of engineers, Bill Gates insists that the tech industry needs the cap raised. 

American engineers "GOTO" Washington

On the other end of the battlefield, IEEE engineers from around the country are converging on the capital for the 2007 "IEEE-USA Career Fly-In" which will pair American engineers with Congressmen and Senators to discuss H-1B visa reform.  Like legions of detached soldiers looking for a few good generals, they will make their appeal to the 110th congress for support.  So far there are very few representatives who have openly taken their side. Even fewer seem remotely concerned about national security concerns.  Perhaps the lure of brobdingnagian campaign contributions has overshadowed the sworn duty of our elected officials. 

The only hope IEEE engineers may have is to convince politicians of a possible voter backlash if they increase the cap without enacting proper reforms.  A large group of web-savvy engineers organizing an internet campaign to ralley voters could prove to be quite a formidable adversary.

The two biggest heavyweights in the industry finally face-off for what may become the most consequential fight for the future of the engineering profession.  As one of the oldest and most prestigious engineering organizations, IEEE represents a large percentage of American engineers.  As their default "Capo di tutti Capi", Bill Gates speaks for the majority of tech company owners who desperately want low cost labor.

The "Immigration Reform" bill battle beginning now will force representatives to choose sides between the mega-rich owners of international corporations and middle-class Americans.  Like the Amnesty bill last year, this may become another extremely emotional issue.  Politicians may face an angry electorate if they once again scuttle their responsibility to their constituents.

The dramatic battle is about to begin when Senator McCain (R-AZ) and Senator Kennedy (D-MA) unveil their secret immigration bill to the public.  It looks very bad for the underrepresented American engineers.  After all, Bill Gates was the only one they called to testify before their committee, the "Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions".   Some sources believe that Bill Gates' lobbyists actually helped McCain and Kennedy write the bill in the first place. 

Bill Gates, king of the world

How can the American "King of Engineering" turn on the very engineers he created?  To be fair, Microsoft has always attempted to get the best and brightest engineers from around the world to work for them.  It is only fair that American corporations should be able to compete for the best and brightest from around the world.  But unfortunately, that is not what the H-1B program has become.  It has simply become a loophole to import cheap labor. 

Most H-1B holders are not geniuses; they are average engineers doing the same job that millions of Americans can do.  If the H-1B program was reformed to only allow in those with a Masters degree and higher, then Bill Gates should be satisfied.  But that is not what he is asking for.  If he were then there would be little need to discuss a cap since it would never be reached.  Instead, he is asking for a huge increase in the cap for B.S. graduates while summarily ignoring H-1B abuses.  The engineers are only asking that proper reform be proposed before any cap increase is considered. 

Why can't Mr. Gates see the negative ramifications of drastically and blindly increasing the cap?  Is it possible that Bill Gates is not aware of the hundreds of thousands of engineers who have endured hardships in the past?  Is it possible that he truly believes what he wrote in a Washington Post op-ed piece where he states that the program has strong wage protections for U.S. workers?  The truth is that there are absolutely NO wage protections for Americans in this law.  Is it possible that he is a liar?   Is it possible that he was behind the whole H-1B expansion in the first place?

Jack and Bill went up Capital Hill

The roots of the H-1B increases go back to Jack Abramoff and his lobbying connections.  Under Bill Gates' employ, Jack Abramoff successfully lobbied for an increase in the cap in 1999 from 85,000 to 195,000 visas.  Shortly thereafter, in 2001, this increase coupled with the the dot-com bust was responsible for massive unemployment in the tech industry which lasted for several years.  Tragic results varied from divorces and foreclosures to psychological trauma and even suicides.

Prior to his hiring of Jack Abramoff, congress was trying to break up Bill Gates' monopoly.   Now, after countless millions have been spent on lobbying efforts, Bill Gates has magically become the darling of Capital Hill.  It is sadly suspicious that not one member of the committee challenged Mr. Gates' assertions that American workers have proper protection.

Deja vu - unemployment again

If another recession occurs in 2008, as it did in 2001, hundreds of thousands of American careers will once again get destroyed.   If history repeats itself, this war may yet turn tragic once again.

In 2001, the H-1B cap was set at 195,000 visas per year.  A recession forced thousands of engineers out of work while H-1B visa holders enjoyed a six-year employment guarantee.  To cut costs, companies mercilessly laid off thousands of American engineers while retaining their H-1B engineers. 

This plunged the entire engineering and IT profession into a depression, where work was nearly impossible to find anywhere in the country.  Areas such as South Florida, where many engineers are still looking for work in their profession, have yet to recover.  This is the crux of the anti-H1B movement.

Please do not feed the wild animals

To win this war, IEEE engineers must convey to members of congress how the H-1B program has affected the quality of life within their profession and how it's shaped the business.

The reason capitalism works so well is because it emulates competition in the wild.  In the past, businesses had to work hard to compete for qualified employees.  When workers are in demand, wages rise and more people enter the field creating a natural balance.

H-1B workers are easy prey for big business, who have now become used to getting hand-fed by the U.S. government.  Now, demand is beginning to increase slightly in the engineering field, and big business is scurrying for more free food.  If politicians do not kowtow to big business and do not increase the cap, wages will rise and scores of American students will flock to engineering.

American international corporations have already shifted millions of engineering jobs overseas.  Not satisfied with those cost savings, they want to enjoy additional welfare here at home.  This imbalance between corporate-influence and voter-influence in Washington is perhaps the biggest threat to American democracy in modern times. 

Whenever government interferes with businesses, some group will be inadvertantly hurt.  Like "Robin Hood" in reverse, this law transfers money from middle-class engineers and into the pockets of tech company owners and CEOs.  It will be best for America and Americans if the government stays out of the engineering business altogether and allows natural supply and demand to dictate the market. 

Corporations need to learn how to hunt once again.  They will have to return to recruiting at universities, recruiting from other states, and competing with each other for the best and the brightest engineers who are already in this country.

America (Americans) compete

Like a Jedi mind-trick, proponents of an increase have been cleverly wording talking points like "America must compete", which are then mindlessly repeated over and over by their supporters.   This misdirection of the English language is dishonest and must stop.

Politicians should stop referring to "American companies" as "America".  It is insulting to every American citizen when politicians say "America" must compete, when referring to "American companies".  In fact, the top 3 companies benefitting most from the H-1B program are Indian outsourcing companies, WIPRO, Infosys and Cognizant.  They use the H-1B program to train their employees here, then send them back to India to facillitate outsourcing contracts.  American companies use H-1B visa holders as long-term low-cost labor while they view American engineers as short-term expendable resources.  In the end, both American and foreign engineers end up receiving lower wages and working conditions.

It seems that, with recent H-1b practices, feeding the wild animals introduced a sort of career virus that is getting out of control.  As with Star Trek's "Prime Directive", an organic system such as American capitalism should not be frivolously tampered with.   

Politicians need to understand that helping large "American (international) corporations" succeed is not necessarily in the best interest of "America" and is often detrimental to "Americans".  It's now time for congress to clean their "House" of these wild animals and to return to legislating "for the people".


Ground zero

A battalion of IEEE engineers will be arriving in the eye of the storm in mid-March just as the immigration bill is released.  They hope to compete with Bill Gates and other lobbyists by doing things the old fashioned way.  They will meet face to face and simply try to explain their point of views to as many members of congress who will listen.   Lacking large campaign contributions, all they have to offer their elected representatives is web-based election campaigns as either carrots or sticks.  Perhaps that along with a just cause will be enough to be heard.

The immigration war has just begun and the H-1B Battle has turned out to be ground zero of the debate.

 

 

What People Are Saying

H1B VISA's

ALERT Big Business is attempting to change the rules so that former H1B visa holders are NOT included in the H1B cap. Read below.

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Shelly Smith

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GIVE MS Products away free!!

That's my solution to this H1B crisis.

If Bill wants to screw over the country that provides him wealth and stability....and because money runs this country, what other choice or recourse do we have but hit him where it hurts!!

Buy 1 copy of an MS product then give them away for $1 per copy to cover the CD copy charge.

We have no say in this supposed "democracy". When Bill Gates, one man, can through his money screw over Americans who want to work hard and make a living, it's time to take things into our own hands.

I'm broke, I was an engineer but now work something similar to a McDonalds job. So what do I care if you send me to prison for copyright theft? If all unemployed engineers created a black market for MS products, he would be SCREWED.

And I'm sure there are plenty of software engineers out there can figure out how to remove any monitoring or activation code in MS software.

Power to the people. May Bill Gates rot in hell.

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It is easy to pick out the

It is easy to pick out the H1-B visa responses, as they are filled with punctuation, grammar, and contextual errors.
What would one expect, from a foreigner, with such a high level of competency? Ever hear of creating a document in, oh say,,, Word? Spell check is a great thing! Especially for those who are culturally deprived of a lifetime of education.
Though, this reminds me of the products they supply; inexpensive (like opinions), unreliable, and culturally/ethnically biased.

BTW - Anyone seen any good (cheap) Chinese products lately? Lead was a mainstay of the Roman diet near the end! Anyone see an agenda of dumping, devaluing, and delineation.
With so many proud foreigners online, I would like to ask a couple of silly American questions:
If you are ALL so good, why don't you start companies in your own poverty, disease ridden countries? It would create labor for your poor, undereducated society.
Starting businesses that you are truly in control of, in your own little world, would REALLY create a system of competition.
Secondarily, If you ALL, are so good, why didn't you stay home and prove your values to the people who truly appreciate your “skill set”?
Honestly, the reason is that in countries like China and India, 75% of the population is illiterate.
The peasants struggle to survive by eating rats and roaches. Simply put, the infrastructure to support your delusions of how good you truly are, does not exist. Nor will it, without the stupid American's money.
No need to answer, or obfuscate the issue, we all know! ;-)
Americans should vote, to get rid of the rubbish, and take back their rights.
In recent years, I have attained a vast amount guns and knowledge; my free advice is to recommend all Americans get your weapons stored, and keep your powder dry.
The time will come when might will have to take place of Common Sense.

Friend of America,
Patrick Henry

Guys, don't fix your eyes on

Guys, don't fix your eyes on the jobs you lose to the H1B holders. However, think how many jobs have been created by those smart and hard working H1B workers. If you have a chance to walk in a top Univ, a top national research lab, a research department in companies like IBM, Intel and Microsoft, the core trading department in Goldman & Sachs, you will realize where the jobs come from. If there is no H1B you will have no jobs to lose in the first place. In addition, it's not H1B which bring down the salary of mid class, it's the increasing productivity of China and India. You think you can keep the jobs if there is no H1B? No, the jobs will just be moved to China or India! If you want to block the offshoring by law, then thousands of companies will just disappear while thousands of Chinese and Indian companies will be setup! Face the fact! Do not count on anyone to protect you if you can't work better and cheaper than others.

The answer to previous post

The answer to previous post Q is: Corruption. Middle class is bankrupt.

I am 57 years, old computer

I am 57 years, old computer consultant, one who has had THREE jobs due to either outsourcing or been replaced by an Indian person on an H-1B visa.

I WILL NOT support any Presidential candidate that does not promise to END outsourcing and END to H-1B visa’s. They are a menace to this country and an insult to working men and women.

Globalization is an evil on par with slavery and I want it to end! That, even more than Iraq, is the number one issue for most of us.

The BIG Money companies like Microsoft, Oracle, Dell, Cisco, and HP say that they can not compete without H-1B Technical skill labor.

Then, I must raised the question has our Colleges fail this Industry, by not educating enough students?

If so, is it not the duty of these Corporate Citizens and our Government to help find, a solution that would benefit all Americans and not just the few RICH.

What does India got to offer that the US cannot, other than India’s cheap labor. And only for this reason, these same corporations are investing in India at the tune of 25.4 billion dollars and not in the US the country where they have created their initial wealth.

Has the spirit of innovation for these companies to produce new Products and Services ended, and the only way to add profit to their bottom line is to exploit cheap labor and to exploit the US middle class by taking away good paying jobs.

Why don’t these same companies invest 25.4 billion dollars in the US Education in order to get the skill labor that they claim they need??

If our country wants to remain strong, than College can not be an luxury for a selected few that it once was. It needs to be available to everyone willing to expand his or her horizons and fulfill his or her potential and these corporations should be investing in our failing economy.

There is so much to be done for the human race, solutions to combat Diseases, Energy, Global Warming, HealthCare, Education and Hunger.

Our country has a ecosystem of the finest minds, that no other country posses where people of many different cultures live as one in their pursuit of the American dream of prosperity, and from these same people comes the greatest advancements to help mankind.

As I write these notes I keep on thinking of one of airline safety rules…. “in case of lack of oxygen in the cabin a mask will drop from the ceiling, and place it over your mouth and if you are traveling with a small child place the oxygen mask on yourself first before assisting your child”.

So let’s help our country first, so we can be strong enough to help others.

Also, I believe that the middle class has helped enough in the Globalization vision, by loosing good Manufacturing jobs to China while the CEO’s and stockbrokers make Millions and Millions of dollars in salaries and bonus in the selling of American to foreign interests for their personal wealth.

And now the middle class, faces another crises in the IT Industry by losing good paying jobs to H-1B visas from India, while Bill Gates of Microsoft, and Larry Ellison of Oracle makes millions and millions of dollars in bonuses.

If globalization is such a good thing, WHY HAS ONLY the RICH and foreign countries benefited from and the US middle class suffer by giving up their American dream of prosperity??

I think its time for the 100million dollars CEO’s and 100million Stockbrokers who are “selling our country” to start giving up their American dream of prosperity to “Globalization” vision.

What “selling our country” means:
1. When we ship our factories to China we are shipping not just the factory production line worker, we are shipping the Product Engineer, Chemist, Production Manager, Industrial Engineering, Human Resources Manager, IT Manager, Purchasing Manager, Plant Controller, Shipping Manager and Plant Manager.
2. The effect on a Small towns when a factory closes—by closing a small plant with 300 people it would take out 10 million dollars from a small towns revenue.
3. We shutdown the most efficient industry in America the small farmer…but we are ready to poison our food supply by importing farm goods from China. And spend millions and millions of American dollars to inspect these imports.
4. Can not educate our young but we are ready to make concessions to help educate H1B visas to help the mighty Microsoft, Oracle, Dell, HP Cisco at the cost of US tax payers.

I visit candidates for President Websites and I do not see these issues being mention by any of our candidates. But at the same time these candidates are GETTING BIG MONEY for their campaign. Where is this money coming from?? Is it from BIG MONEY and foreign lobbyists??

Could this money come from the “MIDDLE CLASS” America??

The New MIDDLE CLASS” America is working in a low paying service industry jobs that offered no benefits like health care…..we have all we can do just to keep a roof over our head…, Never mind, giving contributions to political candidates.

Thank you so much for looking into this matter.

I believe the future of our children depend on making the right decisions on these issues.

Good Bless.

Hi All, You are being

Hi All,

You are being nearsighted. Too bad that the real enemy is not being portraited here. H-1B is not the problem as long as they keep caps (L1 may cause some problems, though). The problem is offshoring. Bring people in won't generate unemployment, taking contracts out will. What is putting wages down is cheap labor overseas, not in America. Employers have to offer at least average wage to import a worker. For offshoring contracts there is no limit.

Bring people in will cause

Bring people in will cause more global warming, higher gas price, expensive utilities, overcrowded roads, overpriced education, expensive housing etc