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Who's responsible for securing your PC: You or Microsoft?

Microsoft recently took a lot of flak for quietly forcing a security update on users without their knowledge or approval. Basically the company sent out patches for the Windows Update mechanism to users of Windows XP and Vista machines. The patch was installed on systems without users knowing about it--even in cases where individuals had turned off the automatic updating feature.

Predictably, that caper had a lot of folks steaming over what they saw as a serious privacy intrusion by Microsoft. The incident reminded me of something that came up during an interview I did recently with Scott Charney, corporate vice president of Trustworthy Computing (TwC) at Microsoft. The subject was consumers and the responsibility they bear for securing not just their own systems but also the whole connected Internet ecosystem.

According to Charney, securing the Internet is something of a shared responsibility between hardware and software vendors, Internet access providers and consumers. While the vendors definitely need to do a better job of helping users manage security, there also needed to be a clearer articulation of what consumers need to do to secure their own systems and the Internet, he says.

Understandably, most consumers don't want to become system administrators or security administrators. All they want is to be able to log on, connect up and securely do whatever it is they want to do on the Internet without having to worry about spyware, Trojans, rootkits and botnets, Charney said. And technologies are readily available today that can help consumers do just that. ISPs and software vendors such as Microsoft can help consumers keep malware out of their systems and ensure they have the proper protections in place before their systems are allowed on the Internet, Charney said.

Microsoft itself can "sometimes do things like manage the machine for you," he said. "But that violates trust and privacy issues for you. And you immediately go ‘I don't trust Microsoft. I don't want them changing the settings on my machine. I want to do it myself'," Charney says. That's just fine so long as you actually do it; The thing is, if users don't manage security aggressively, all they are doing is adding risk to themselves and to the entire ecosystem, he said. 

"There's an interesting analogy to smoking here," Charney says. Before people understood the implications of second-hand smoke, the general attitude towards smokers was "if you want to kill yourself that's your choice. You're free right?" But once the implication of second hand smoke begun to sink into the public perception, attitudes changed quickly and smoking was banned everywhere in public places. "The rational was you have the right to poison yourself and kill yourself but you don't have the right to kill others."

Charney readily agrees that comparing attitudes towards smoking to letting an outsider tamper with the settings on your system without your knowledge may be a stretch. But it at least helps frame the argument. "In the security space, for consumers and computers you can say, ‘Look, if you don't want to run anti-virus and you don't want to configure your system right and you want to get wiped out, that's your choice, The problem is, if your machine turns into a botnet and is used to attack someone else, it's not just you injuring yourself, its you injuring everyone else," he says.

Companies have been dealing with this issue for the past several years via network access control technologies designed to prevent users from connecting to the network unless their systems are properly secured with all patches and configuration settings mandated by policy. It is a trivial task to do the same on the consumer side, he says. "There's no reason why an access provider couldn't say, ‘Hey you're infected and I'm not giving you an IP address until you clean the stuff out'," he says. The important thing is there needs to be more of a discussion of these sorts of issues. "At some point, people could say is it socially responsible for a vendor not to offer automatic upgrades? Is it socially responsible for a user not to turn on automatic upgrades?" he asks.

Personally, I HATE the idea of someone automatically updating my system with patches for flaws that I don't even know about. And I don't care if it's Microsoft that's doing the updating or if it's any other software vendor. But I let them do it anyway because I just don't have the time or the inclination to patch systems myself. I haven't really thought about it really as being so much of a social responsibility as much as a pragmatic thing to do. So far I've been lucky in that no patch has crashed my system or otherwise caused things to go terribly wrong with it. But I also know others have not been so lucky in this regard.

What do you think? Should consumers be prepared to let outsiders manage their security for them if they aren't willing to do so themselves? Are we reaching a point where consumers with unsafe systems should be prevented from connecting to the Internet -- not just for their own safety but also that of others?

What People Are Saying

I think the problem was that

I think the problem was that MS had an update involving their authentication and I and probably a lot of others weren't installing it simply because we had authorized copies. So MS simply took a critical update and the authentication update and forced it because so many weren't updating an issue that benefited MS and not the consumer.

Unfortunately MS doesn't understand that consumer rights are not less than theirs. As always MS acts the bully and it appears that all the legal actions against MS has not changed their attitude one wit.

I wish I knew how MS could be made to join polite society.

I would REALLY like

I would REALLY like Microsoft to have a system in place to do silent manipulation of the green settings of a PC, idle down the drive, etc. Possibly do stealth monitoring and power off the millions of unused idle Windows machines helping cause global warming.

Wait a minute, a knock at the door. Hel...!

Like either of those will happen. Best to just use common sense and hope they do as well. Do you REALLY want too know how our nuclear defense system has worked or would you rather sleep at night? I can see where a stealth update might be the right thing to do under limited circumstances.

In the corporate world we typically disable this auto update ability so updates cannot be done until tested. But we are also the least likely to host thousands of evil bots bringing down the net. Funny how that common sense thing works.

Well, I just went and read

Well, I just went and read the whole EULA for XP Pro, and I can say that you do NOT explicitly give MS admin rights. The closest is this, which brings up the question "What is an Internet-based service?": 2.3 Internet-Based Services Components. The Software contains components that enable and facilitate the use of certain Internet-based services. You acknowledge and agree that Microsoft may automatically check the version of the Software and/or its components that you are utilizing and may provide upgrades or fixes to the Software that will be automatically downloaded to your Workstation Computer.

The problem with MicroSoft

The problem with MicroSoft is basically electronic snooping and this maybe an aftermath of the 9/11 incident... The world has become a more paranoid place and people are watching what you do in the net and elsewhere... I have a dark feeling that in some backRoom somewhere even guys like MicroSoft have their own bug workers who do create bugs to GUARANTEE SOFTWARE OBSOLESCENCE and try to create new products and new problems where non was really needed and no problems existed and no new windows update or hole plugging was really that necessary... I would just simply change systems and switch to Linux or some other os and Microsoft is really making their windows system absolutely unpalatable to the average Joe on the street who just simply want to log on and do their thing. The view from Vista is a narrow window inside a MicroSoft insane Asylum really....

When you agreed to the

When you agreed to the Windows EULA, at the very least (WinXP) you gave Microsoft admin rights on your computer. At worst (Vista) you gave Microsoft and any of it's croonies full rights to your computer.

You agreed. Don't like it? Don't agree.

ABSOLUTELY... ABSOLUTELY...

ABSOLUTELY... ABSOLUTELY... no body reads the fine print on those Eula things and Bill Gates is no stupid no to know that. The major problem is they are capitalizing on that point of consumer complacency so that they can push stuff... I say Love it or switch to Linux

I think they did it to deny

I think they did it to deny responsibility.

My son-in-law's computer's IE hasn't worked since then.

Silent unasked for updates

Silent unasked for updates are bad for the simple sense they can break software. You may pay thousands of dollars for an application that was poorly written and some silent update kills it. Could take a very long time to even figure out the cause. What if that poorly written application was being used for cancer treatment?

I do not agree with stealth updates. Microsoft has diagnostic SSL tools that could be rewritten to run silently. Like I want them knowing my user ID's and passwords. They have no more right to do this than the Government.

But I am sure it is a dead end subject since Microsoft has more money than a lot of countries and the DOJ has power to do what they want. Might as well go put on my sheep skin coat and graze in the field with the rest who don't see this as a problem.

There will always be a large

There will always be a large percentage of computer users who will never be comfortable with doing their own updates, maintaining firewalls and AV software, etc. And they shouldn't have to be. This can all be done automatically by default, whether by the OS vendor, the ISP, or some other party. Everyone should have the option to disable some or all of that if they are comfortable accepting the risk and responsibility.

But the only way any of that will work is if the vendors also accept direct responsibility if they break something on the end user's PC. I know plenty of people whose complete comfort level on the PC consists of turning it on and clicking the AOL icon. If a vendor breaks that, then they'll also need to come up with a way of finding and fixing the problem without the user's involvement as well.

The problem I have with what

The problem I have with what Microsoft did was how they did it. They tried to sneak the updates in without telling anyone. Why didn't they just send the updates the usual route with Patch Tuesday, explaining what they are for? Or if they wanted them sooner, send them out sooner but with full disclosure. Try to hide the update just brings up trust issues.