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Seth Weintraub

Apple versus Google

The Pirate Bay is (surprise!) guilty of pirating, but what about Google?

A Swedish court today found the Pirate Bay guilty of copyright infringement, otherwise known as pirating (surprise!). With all the news lately of pirates capturing ships off the Somali coast, it's easy to forget that online pirates are out there as well.

Well, perhaps "Pirates" is too harsh a term. These guys aren't kidnapping people at gunpoint, holding prisoners for ransom nor are they getting in gunfights with the US military. What they were doing was making it easier for Internet users to share copyrighted music and videos (and software) illegally.

The fines were relatively harsh for the four founders of the Pirate Bay. Each got a year in prison and combined, they have to cough up $3.6 million to the Swedish arms of the major global entertainment firms. They, of course, will be appealing the ruling and according to Peter Sunde would rather burn the money than pay the entertainment companies.

They also say that what the Pirate Bay does is no different from Google. From a legal standpoint, I really have to agree. They obviously cater their results towards Pirates, but technically they don't host the files, they don't download the files, nor do they tell people to download copyrighted material.

In fact, much of what's on the Pirate Bay is not copyrighted material and if you look at torrenting in general, there are many many legitimate uses of the technology. Linux OS software distribution comes to mind. Legitimate movie distribution is also another use. Popular video viewing software, Joost, uses torrents to distribute video. So does Vuze.

Obviously, from a logical standpoint they are certainly aiding and abetting people who are stealing from the entertainment companies. The problem is that by setting this president, the Swedish court is opening up Google, Microsoft Live search, and Yahoo to similar such actions from the entertainment industry.

If I do a Google search for "James Bond Torrent", I get 656,000 results. Most of the first few pages are links to other torrent trackers. there are hundreds of them.

There is no real way for companies like Google to police their search engine for illegal torrent downloads. They could hide all .torrent files, but then users could change these names to .tortor files or something. It is literally impossible.

I would offer this suggestion: The music industry was able to do much better against the pirates by selling songs at a good $.99 value than they ever did with lawsuits.

I'm not sure the Swedish appeals court can hold up this ruling based on its technical merits alone. So entertainment companies might want to look into a better plan B.

 

What People Are Saying

> They obviously cater

> They obviously cater their
> results towards Pirates, but
> technically they don't host the files

> Obviously, from a logical standpoint
> they are certainly aiding and
> abetting people who are stealing
> from the entertainment companies.

Indeed the purpose of Pirate Bay is theft,
they are in the business of facilitating
theft. That's nothing like the
business that Google is in, so
to pretend they are the same is
ridiculous.

I just noticed, no one

I just noticed, no one that comments on blogs about TPB's court proceedings seems to agree with the music industries stand point.
Apperently anyone that can navigate the Internet to a blog about TPB and figure out how to post a comment agrees with TPB.
This means that its not just the high-end tech savy people that supports TPB, even the moderatly and less tech-savy people do. I'm willing to bet that most people that barley know how to use a computer would also side with TPB.

What a Joke

What a joke. Youtube built their entire empire on copyright infringement and now it seems Hollywood is about to embrace them with open arms.

Also never mind the fact, GOOGLE has ruined the internet search engine to the point you can no longer do research without hitting 4 pages of SEO blogs and crap loaded with adsense.

If the pirate bay gets a year in prison then then GOOGLE and YOUTUBE should get life!

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Hollywood allowing it for years!!!

Maybe it is Hollywood allowing it to happen? Look at all the newspaper compaies going under because the world trend is to pick up the computer device and see what the news is via getting in the car, wasting gas and 20minutes to go buy a paper?
Hollywood should be hosting thier own movies as a hollywood guild. Free trailers, free low grade movies like the pirate do it.
1) Holly wood could then sell high quality downloads.
2) or by a movie for blueray, or membership to replace damaged disks.
3) Then let food makers and football beg a hollywood site for banner space.

I would say Hollywood needs to step up like papers to internet news feeds. Hollywood needs to go from disks to some sort of web media sales.

Hollywood and all the actors are hoping to get sales from thearters and blockbusters alike. and it is at that point where all the first pirating happens.

Quoting Peter S. Kolmisoppi

Quoting Peter S. Kolmisoppi (brokep)

# Really, it's a bit LOL. It used to be only movies, now even verdicts are out before the official release.10:30 AM Apr 17th from web

# Stay calm - Nothing will happen to TPB, us personally or file sharing what so ever. This is just a theater for the media.10:06 AM Apr 17th from web

# Scandal number 3483948394 when it comes to the rights of the people behind TPB? :_)9:49 AM Apr 17th from web

# According to leaked information from the court we lost (got the news last night). Trustworthy source as well.9:48 AM Apr 17th from web

MPAA/RIAA Trample the Law

What TPB did, and does, is technically NOT illegal. Bittorrent trackers are, and should be indifferent about facilitating a perfectly legal service. They are, for all intents and purposes, the "messenger". People put ads in the Chronicle for private escorts, and have for years, does that make the SF Chronicle guilty of accessory to solicit prostitution? The verdict on the TPB is unfounded, and the MPAA, and RIAA need to be rallied against with the full force of collective contempt and public outcry for their witch hunts.

Letters of protest need to flood the offices of the Riksdag Swedish Parliament members ( http://www.riksdagen.se/Webbnav/index.aspx?nid=1832 ) and the Swedish Minister of Justice
( http://www.regeringen.se/sb/d/2078 ).

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So what does this mean?

I DON'T WANT TO LOSE TPB! It's my fav! It has all the best users and I just like it for all its content!

Torrenting has always been a touchy thing to police and is the easiest way to get around the technicalities of the law in various countries. But I like it. Haha of course.

But they have been proven guilty...but what does that mean of the future of TPB? I think that's what we are all asking.

seth i agree with you

seth i agree with you completely. i was thinking earlier today if the entertainment industry properly thought this through. i'm thinking not! do they have any idea of what kind of monster they just created? Here are two simple examples that everyone will understand 1 is prohibition and the other is the good ole usa's war on drugs. today will be the beginning of there end. this prosecution of pirate bay will not sit well with the users around the world. does the entertainment industry idiots have any idea what they're up against? I'll be laughing when it happens