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Please don't take our XP away from us!

The users are asking, ok screaming, to Microsoft to please, oh please, don't take our XP Pro away from us. So far the big dumb company from Washington state is ignoring their customer pleas.

Of course, Microsoft already backed off killing XP Home once they figured out that Linux was eating their lunch in the hotter than hot UMPC (Ultra Mobile PC) market. If they have any brains - questionable these days I know since Mr. Bill is leaving -- they'll revive XP Pro too, since XP Home is useless for business network users.

Well, Microsoft may not be able to buy a clue, but the big OEMs aren't half as dumb, not do they have to try defending the crapware operating system known as Vista. So it is that Hewlett-Packard, Acer and Lenovo, that's number 1, 3, and 4 in global PC sales, will continue selling XP Pro until June 30th. Dell, number 2, will stop selling XP Pro systems on June 18th.

Even after June 30, most vendors will be happy to let you upgrade - or as Microsoft would have it downgrade - to XP Pro from either Vista Ultimate or Business. The difference is that you'll need to specifically ask for the OEM do this for you. For more details on how upgrading from XP to Vista will work, see this poorly written MSDN (Microsoft Development Network) posting.

You should note, however, that if your PC normally comes with Vista Home Premium or any other version of Vista, you don't have the right to get XP Pro instead. You and your vendor can probably find a way to pull it off, but you'll probably end up paying more.

In fact, I see Microsoft's restrictions on XP Pro, amounting to yet another Microsoft tax. To get the Windows you want, you're going to need to pay for either an expensive version of Vista-Ultimate or Business-or buy both Vista Home Premium and XP Pro.

If you're sick of paying Microsoft for operating systems you neither want nor need, let me point out that you don't have to buy Windows for a great desktop these days. The days when you needed to be a tech guru to run Linux are ancient history. HP sells laptops with SLED (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop). Dell offers Ubuntu 7.10 on several of its systems and Dell will soon be offering Ubuntu 8.04 on its PCs, laptops, and its forthcoming UMPC. Acer will soon be offering Linpus Linux on its UMPCs and laptops. Finally, I personally love running SLED on my Lenovo ThinkPad.

In other words, you can still have a brand-name computer running a top desktop that can work with your business network and pay a lot less than you are now. I don't know about you, but that sounds like a good deal to me.

 

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Move On From XP, Seriously

I'm sick of horrible press trashing Windows Vista. This crap written by Cyber Cynic is another shining example of failed journalism. If you want to write for a flock of sheep, be my guest. When was the last time the press has ever taken an objectionable approach to any subject matter, let alone software? Windows Vista has its pros and cons like any other operating system. The architecture behind Windows Vista is overlooked and under appreciated. Microsoft made changes to Windows for the sake of security, and people want to blame Microsoft for an operating system gone bad? Give me a break, people. What about the lazy software and hardware vendors that dragged their feet... and keep dragging their feet on making their products compatible with Vista. How about the PC vendors that keep slapping bloatware on their machines just to make a few extra bucks, having the gumption to charge its customers to take the software off? I see only two improvements that need to be made with the next version of Windows... streamline the OS for better performance and reduce the number of Windows versions to eliminate customer confusion. Vista isn't the only OS with issues. Linux is still sending its users on a hunt for DVD codecs. Apple even announced streamlining OS X Snow Leopard, admitting the current version of Mac OS X is bloated. I have been running Vista since its release in 2007, and I have yet to have any problems. Even on my HP notebook, it has served me well, and I am a power user. Maybe I should break my PC on purpose just to join the flock. The press keeps beating their little drum on how Vista is "crapware". The press has all but ignored the crowd that hasn't had an issue with Vista, and they keep going after every single little story about Vista issues, no matter how trivial. All of this goes to show how American culture just loves to be the drama queen. Cyber Cynic, go back to school if you want to be a real journalist. Otherwise, buddy up with Richard Stallman and bow down to the 'almighty Apple'. Sheesh

Vista sells more Macs and Linux Distros....

Than any advertising campaign (short of Apple's PC guy/Mac Guy commercials).

Vista is not a total dead-end product but for most laptops it is really a no-go. Microsoft knew that but decided to release it anyway according to court subpoened documents.

Microsoft should extend Windows XP Pro & Home at least for Laptop OEM builds as without a discreet graphics adapter (read: Low battery life) it is a dog on laptops and both MS and Intel know this as they conspired to have systems labled "Vista Ready" when in fact they weren't.

The quote from the article:
"So far the big dumb company from Washington state is ignoring their customer pleas."
Says it all.

They just don't care about the consumer, rather all they care about is their bottom line. It is this very attitude that will have current MS customers looking at other products. When they find out that they can use open source (or are forced to) they will also find the many other open source products available that compete with MS other product lines.

That's called "cutting off your nose to spite the face" and MS has proved they are very good at this.

Just FYI, I am a Windows person with exposure to both Mac and Linux but my primary systems are Windows.

laptops and vista - don't buy cheap and you won't be disapointed

Laptops work fine with vista so long as it is a new laptop and not one of those $599 specials. Yes, you need a dedicated graphics card. Yes, that means a battery with more than 4 cells. Yes, than means dual cores (nothing less than 2GHz) and as much RAM as used to be on servers 10 years ago.
That said, if you are running old or antiquated hardware, install XP from your cd if you want Windows. That OS is OLD. They just now finally added true wireless security for pete's sake. If you're buying a new laptop without a dedicated graphics card you're going to slow down your machine no matter what OS you run. If your laptop has anything less than 6 cells (I prefer 9) it is going to run out of power after awhile, especially with wireless cards and dvd players (it isn't just the video card). Finally, RAM is cheap, and XP didn't come into its own until you threw a couple of GBs at it, so why complain about Vista?
Yes, I have an XPS, got it on sale. Never would have put Vista on my old 1505. But at the same time XP was slow on it too and so was Mandrake and Lindows.
I love how people complained about XP until M$ decided to take it away. Reminds me of the past with the change over to Windows 95.
FYI I support XP, 2003, Vista, Mac, Ubuntu, and SUSE.

Blame it on the press and haters

I must say that I DISAGREE with the fact that Microsoft needs to extend the life of XP. Yes, I agree that Vista had it's share of bumps at launch, the propts to allow access, etc, but they are no where near as the 'professional' reviewers seem to make them. Think of the release of any major OS upgrade and there is not one that has gone as smoothly as you would like. The Win95 series, W2k, and XP had issues, including hardware incompatability. Plug and play had been a nightmare for years. Apple is worse with OSX as each version upgrade requires you to also upgrade much of your software as the vendors will not support the older software on the newer OS. As for now, from running Vista since launch, I can say that I have found most hardware to install without issues nor added drivers. This includes several 4-5 year old printers that installed as soon as they were plugged in (no driver disk). No, Vista won't run your copy of ProComm from 1992 (but why would you want to?). It's time to get off the pot and think about how 98% of users out there use their PCs and combine that with the increased security that is now provided. remember also, that for all of the haters of increased security, you can enable the default Admin account, rename it and eliminate the prompts all at your own risk of security. Oh, and for those 'incompatable' applications, there are ways around the system to make them work.

Games

If they take XP off the market what will I play my games on????

That is the only reason I boot an OS other than Linux anymore.

Hmmm... I guess the day has arrived when Linux is the tool and MS is the toy!

Oh please MS, please take XP

Oh please MS, please take XP away forever. MS you are stupid for NOT taking it away sooner! Please just shutdown it down now.

Sue OEMS's after June 30th, refuse to support it and lets get with dumping Vista shall we? Of course it's never about the customer and ALWAYS about the shipping more product.

If consumers/businesses don't, then let them gnash their teeth as we force copies of Vista on them, as they have really no choice due to your lock-in...MUhaaahah!

D.

Ubuntu is the Best thing invented since Windows 3.1

Ubuntu Linux is so so so awesome.

I am absolutely IN LOVE with it.

And remember, I was the first one heading a Fortune 500 company's implementation of Windows -- when no one had ever heard of it yet.

And I had one of the very first Macs ever manufactured -- yes, what they later called "the Mac Classic".

Now, I am in love with Ubuntu.

Try it and you'll NEVER go back to the terrible days of Windows and Mac OSes.

And, it's super easy to try it. Google: Wubi

Ubuntu

quote: Ubuntu Linux is so so so awesome.

Then you'll be even more impressed by Mandriva or PCLinuxOS or Mint (which is based on Ubuntu, but has some of the recurring problems, Ubuntu has, fixed)

so so so awesome

Or, you can buy a Mac, which comes with an even awesomer OS already installed.

Of course not!

Microsoft will never voluntarily reduce sales of its prime product by acknowledging that it isn't what it should have been. It wasn't until Windows ME was replaced not only by Windows 2000 but also XP that MS finally admitted that ME was not what it should have been.

They didn't admit that ME was bad, just that it had unforeseen problems.

Don't expect MS to admit the same for Vista until at least 2010 and maybe even 2011.