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Sen. Grassley: H-1B friend or foe?

Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa is one of the most vocal opponents of the H-1B visa program in the country, and is a hero to many in the anti-H-1B crowd. But his clarity of thought has to be questioned in light of his suggestion that executives at AIG should kill themselves.

Although I, on the other hand, am perceived by many as an H-1B proponent, I am (as I have written many times before) neither an advocate nor an enemy of H-1B visas or those who hold them. I am in favor (as I have written many times before) of visa programs (including the H-1B program) that enable people to work in countries other than their own, and I believe anything that's broken in any visa program (including the H-1B program) should be fixed.

To be sure, there is plenty about the H-1B program that warrants scrutiny and repair, and Sen. Grassley should be commended for identifying and speaking out on those issues. So it's extremely unfortunate that his credibility has taken such a drastic hit following his interview with a Cedar Rapids radio station, in which he suggested that executives at AIG should either resign or commit suicide.

Now, believe me, I'm as sickened as anyone by reports that AIG intends to pay its executives $165 million in bonuses after receiving a multi-billion-dollar bailout from us taxpayers. It is my earnest hope that President Obama is successful in his reported intention to try to block those bonuses. But Sen. Grassley has turned a serious situation into absurd theater with his disturbing remarks.

According to an Associated Press report, this is what Sen. Grassley told the radio station: "I suggest, you know, obviously, maybe they ought to be removed. But I would suggest the first thing that would make me feel a little bit better toward them if they'd follow the Japanese example and come before the American people and take that deep bow and say, I'm sorry, and then either do one of two things: resign or go commit suicide. And in the case of the Japanese, they usually commit suicide before they make any apology." (See YouTube clip below.)

The senator's PR crew went into immediate damage-control, mega-spin mode, insisting that he was speaking figuratively or rhetorically or whatever, and that he wasn't really calling on the AIG execs to commit suicide.

Well, let's hope not. But you just can't say stuff like that and expect to be taken seriously when you're a champion of a serious issue. H-1B advocates are no doubt cheering Sen. Grassley as one of their new best friends.


What People Are Saying

Ship out immigrants from here

The Govt should ship out all immigrants including roots from here

Ship them away from where they orginated, UK, Italy, Ireland, France, Germany, spain, mexico, africa, india, china, etc and so on.

Once done, there will be plenty opportunities for americans. No unemployment will be seen.

Go and have your "brain"

Go and have your "brain" checked before you make such demands. Oops! Sorry, I cannot ask you that. Never mind ;-)

No H1 restrictions.

http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-promises-india-no-new-h-1b-restrictions-unless-unemployment-gets-worse-2009-3

Immigration has changed

There is a larger issue related to immigration.

When our forefathers came to this country, there was no support group (one mentioned later). As a result, the new immigrants in those times were helpless in larger extent and had to face whatever the rule of the law says about their immigration status. But, now things are different.

Now, the new immigrants have a voice, such as immigrationvoice.com, various voice groups, law firms offering chat boards, etc. There is always a colletive effort to send mass mailings to Immigration authorities, to Senators, House of representatives, Editorial boards, Fraud experts providing Bogus and BS information, ( such as US Citizens do not have skills needed for 21 century, US citizens do not work hard, etc), so that the media would pick up and post it as facts, etc.

The new immigrants lobby are aided actively by the corrupt system, Businesses thirst for cheap labour, the fraud staffing firms and unethical head hunters, the politicians urge to quickly cater who ever makes more noise for the fear of future election loss, the immigration authorities to quickly make money by increasing the filing fees for Visas (instead of trying to streamline and fix the fraud that they knew was all around), the immigration law firms using this windfall oppurtunity to make money, and the desperation of the candidates themselves to get a GC whatever it takes, helped the corrupt system.

And, the new immigrants know that the law can be changed at will. They have seen it in the past 10 years, how many times the H1, L1, LC certification, RIR process, PERM process, etc got changed by Immigration authorities (and the congress), just by mass mailing, mass flowers, etc and using the media effectively.

Who do you blame?

Yes that is exactly what I

Yes that is exactly what I want. When the economy is good and there are lots of projects and supply of skilled labor is low then I would like to invite outsiders like H1B employers, contractors and consultants to come and rectify our temporary human resource problem. Once the project is over, or due to bad economy I am not getting any additional projects, I would first do away with outsiders and that includes H1B, consultants and contractors. This does not mean that I am anti-contractor or anti-H1B. But for some reason the H1B people feel that they should be treated differently. They want to stick around notwithstanding their temporary status. How did the issue slavery come into this. We hire consultants whenever we need them and let them go whenever we feel so. Does that make the consultants slaves?

The one problem that I see with the American workforce, is that they lack flexibility. ie the ability to change with times. A Guaranteed job with inflated pay package is not a fundamental right (for example as those demanded by autoworkers union). Globalization has its pros and cons. You cannot extract all the benefits of globalization without also having to endure some of its cons.

Foreign workers

So, you want foreign workers to work for us when the economy is good and send them away now when the economy is bad. What are they? slaves?

Our country did not crash because of foreign workers. There are many reasons why we are broke now. Lets all work together as a team to build the economy. Don't treat foreign workers as slaves.

Well, that's better than the

Well, that's better than the US workers get.
They get fired when the economy is good and fired when the economy is bad!

They are temporary work visas

They are NOT slaves. They are temporary visitors (Visas) in this country. Do you want your house guests permanently in your home?

H1B and AIG are 2 separate

H1B and AIG are 2 separate topics. First on the H1.

Anytime there is an economic downturn, the first group to face the wrath are the foreigners. That is true in all countries and you cannot single out the Americans for indulging in it. However I think that making 4 or 5 changes to the H1B program will solve most of the problems. Firstly, ban consulting groups from hiring H1B employees. Only direct "clients" should be able to hire H1B. Make sure that H1B employees are not eligible for Green cards. And finally instead of meddling with salary caps for H1B employees, just add a new tax law requiring employers to pay the federal income and state tax of the H1B employees. This will ensure that the employers will hire H1B only when there is an absolute necessity.

Regarding AIG, it is incredible that the government and the business execs still do not get it. Speculative investments does no good to anyone except the speculators. Unless the government eliminates all forms of speculation from business practices you are going to see more AIGs in the future. The government itself needs to abide by some of the accounting rules that it has set for others. For example the government has banned all forms of ponzi schemes, but it is the biggest ponzi player, ie the Social security payments. Do you think that the government invests the social security taxes it collects from you and me? No, it just treats them as revenues. It takes from the young and pay the old. If you and I were to do that with the company pension fund then we will be where Madoff is now.

You are mad

Banning consulting companies. Then you got to be banning IBM,Accenture, CGEY etc etc ..
If H1 B banned from GC then who will be eligible for GC ? Mexican who crossed borders? You are gone a mad.
Employer are paying taxes. Are you drunked?
No one hires H1b without necessity. This is hrly paid world.
AIG stuff you are kid to know the stuff.Keep quite