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Skype for iPhone doesn't bode well for AT&T, telcos

Update: I've written more about this situation which seems to be spiraling here.

Skype on the iPhone 3G works really well.  In fact, it sounds better than regular calls over AT&T's network, at least on my iPhone in New York City.  This is bad news for the telcos.

I've used Fring and a few other Skype clones on the iPhone both jailbroken and from the App Store with mixed results.  From the first call on Skype for iPhone, I knew that this was something different.  The quality is fantastic.  I don't know if the iPhone version of Skype is using the new SILK audio codec, but my call to a friend across town sounded like no other cell phone call I've made.

Because I have both SkypeIN and SkypeOUT, I just effectively got a second line on my iPhone (caveat: only when I choose to have the Skype application running and only within Wifi coverage).  Hopefully, in iPhone version 3.0, Push notifications will keep incoming Skype call notifications active while the phone is on standby or another application is being used.  Speaking of iPhone 3.0, there are reports that Skype voice works over 3G.  In fact, it sounds like it works as well as Wifi.


While this is a feat in itself, it brings about the bigger question of whether or not I really need anything but a data plan on my mobile device.  If I can have effective VOIP which includes SMS messages and visual voicemail, free long distance for $60/year, why am I being charged $60/month (plus $30/month extra for data) from AT&T for less than that? 

At this point, I really only need data from the telcos.  To carry voice, I only need EDGE-type speeds.  That is a big problem for the telcos, they make most of their monthly revenue from voice, not data. 

At the moment, the telcos are artificially blocking competition from VoIP by barring mobile phones from using VoIP applications that work on 3G networks.  I am sure there are some government competition laws somewhere that this is violating.

But it really shouldn't even have to come to government intervention.  The market should dictate what technology wins out over what carrier.  For the carriers, it means who delivers the best data packets at the best value.

For the communications application technology, the winner should be the service that best meets the voice needs of its customers at the best cost.  At the moment, Skype and other VoIP carriers like Vonage can beat any mobile carrier's service hands down, at a fraction of the cost.

These applications are being blocked by telcos on phones but they aren't being blocked on Netbooks and MID's using 3G cards.   There are rumors that the carriers are slowing down VoIP packets or using QoS to down-prioritize their delivery, which may or may not be true. Skype is a pretty smart service, however, and usually finds a way around blockades.  Whenever I have limited-use wireless or am sitting behind a router with bad tables, Skype is usually the last application still able to make connections to the outside world.

So as netbooks and MIDs converge with mobile phones, where will the carriers draw the line?  Who can use VoIP and who can't?  The sad truth for them is that they won't be able to keep up the blockage forever.  VoIP is becoming a killer app on mobile devices.  

The first carrier to stop VoIP calls, besides running into Net neutrality violations, will also start losing customers.  At some point the door will fly wide open.  There are 100 trillion Skype users out there and they all want to connect wirelessly to their accounts.

(The ironic thing here for Skype is that they make their money only by connecting Skype to regular phones.  When everyone has Skype everywhere, their revenue model dries up.  The more popular they become the less money they'll make ... but their business model can change fairly easily.)

Because their voice service is so poor per the price you pay, the carriers voice services will no longer be viable and they will basically be left with just their core competency, selling packets of data.

(All of these mobile video delivery services will die out soon because the original content creators can deliver the content over the Internet without the carrier's special networks, extra charges or overhead)

The Internet is the great equalizer. Ask (what is left of) AOL.

Cradlepoint 3G WifiWhere does this leave me?  When my AT&T plan expires this year, I am leaving the telcos voice plans for good.  I plan on getting a Cradlepoint 3G-Wifi adapter that will be my personal Internet connection.  I will use whatever carrier's data plan is most competitive at the time.  I may be on T-Mobile for a few months, then Clear for a few months.  IF I move to an area with better Verizon service, I will go to Verizon.

Whatever carrier gives me the best service at the best value will win my business.  It doesn't matter.  My Skype number travels with me.

I imagine many will follow this course of action and, here's the good part: there is nothing the telcos can do about it.

What People Are Saying

Telcos aren't going anywhere...they own the network

Telcos can block Skype all they want. Frankly, Skype in this context is somewhat of a rip-off. Why should I pay for ANY voice service if its just packets between IP addresses? People do it every day for free basically with Roger Wilco or Teamspeak. Skype is hype in that context. Skype is just a way to let packets talk to PBX switches, and that's about the only schtick its got. As that legacy goes away, so does Skype's reason for existence. The telcos aren't going anywhere. I mean, I still have the telco if Skype goes away, but if the telco goes away, no more Skype, no more internet, no more anything. Without the telco, the "smartphone" becomes a "dumb-brick" pretty quick. Chicken and egg situation there.

And people pay money to access the telco network, not own it. If you want to own it, buy the stock. The high cost of ATT or Verizon is more reasonable when you look at their capital costs. Deploying, improving, maintaining a 3G over a whole continent aint cheap. Especially un-cheap if in three years you need to do it all over again for LTE/4G which is what's happening now. Telco can do whatever it wants with the network pipe it paid so dearly to build. If AT&T decides they can block Verizon's homepage on their networks, that is their right, they OWN the damn network. Don't like it, get Verizon.

Having some class action suit make the telcos run Skype opens a dark legal door if you think it through. Once its established that a court can force a telco to allow something, courts inversely then have the power to make the telco block something. The RIAA would love nothing more than to establish liability on the networks that distribute the pirated data rather than the pirates because they are far fewer (and of course, much richer). It's the classic slippery slope and before long the perverse case law built on behalf of "consumer advocacy" is used to increase the costs to consumers while limiting their choices. Careful what you wish for, peeps.

BEWARE of ebay Inc (ebay/Paypal.Skype)!!!

Skype is owned by ebay, as is Paypal. One only needs look as far as ebay's CEO, John Donahoe, and ex-ebay CEO, Meg Whitman, to see a very corrupt corporation being driven into the ground by their "Disruptive Innovation" scheme for ebay Inc. The new policies enforced against users of ebay's core operations are destroying that core. Donahoe has mandated policies which forces their sellers to LIE to (and about) their customers. Those not complying are suspended. Sellers are strictly forbidden from leaving honest accounts about bad transactions on ebay in their feedback left for their buyers. Also, sellers are not allowed to tell their customers that buyers on ebay ARE allowed to pay via checks and money orders. ebay hides the FACT that ebay buyers CAN pay by checks and money orders. By keeping this information FROM ebay buyers, many ebay buyers are falsely led to believe that Paypal is their only payment option on ebay. Ebay Inc. makes additional profits from this very deceitful practice. Paypal has also recently granted ITSELF permission to withhold ANY users' funds for up to 180 days via it's "sole discretion" per it's amended User Agreement. Paypal retains the interest from those withheld funds. Your accounts attached to Paypal are NOT safe, either! Search the internet for "SPOTLIGHT: WATCHING OUT FOR YOUR SAFETY AND POCKETBOOK". Please note that Oldenburg's comments blaming the credit card companies for buyers keeping the sellers' items, while receiving refunds, is totaly inaccurate. Per Paypal's User Agreement "PayPal retains full discretion to make a final decision in favor of the buyer or the seller based on any criteria PayPal deems appropriate". In the vast majority of ebay disputes, Paypal is now deciding in favor of the buyers.

If anyone THINKS that Donahoe is suddenly going to play fair with the Skype portion of ebay Inc., I'm afraid they are in for a very rude awakening. Donahoe has ALREADY discussed more ways in which he will squeeze additional monies out of users of Skype in the very near future.

Dear fellow americans, 1

Dear fellow americans, 1 solution is certainly http://www.iskoot.com/products/skype

Secondly, there is an app on Google projects here it is http://code.google.com/p/skypephonemanager/

If I were you I'd search google code in detail.
I've had mobile and landline together for 4 months now, at a cost of £ 80 per year + international and mobile calls...

take care

Three, a mobile network in

Three, a mobile network in the UK have been supplying all their handsets with a Skype app for the last two years. This Skype app uses Three's 3G network. Three allow Skype to Skype calls and Skype Out calls to overseas phones.

Three have embraced Skype and made it work for them and they still make money. Why can't other networks embrace VoIP like Three?

Been using Skype on my

Been using Skype on my Windows Mobile phone for over a year. It works great, makes calls, and still continues to do so. Sorry to you iPhony's out there, the news here is just that you bought the wrong hype.

Good job, Microsoft! Your

Good job, Microsoft! Your propaganda creep got his iPhone hate message at the top of the thread, as they usually do.

Why? I can use it on the iPhone, too!

What hype? Skype now works on the iPhone. No need for Windoze Mobile or otherwise.

Skype can do it...

Because they pay $0 for infrastructure. Skype has no costs other than software development. They don't even ay for bandwidth, because they have set up skype to use all the skype users out there as their gateways to other users.

If everyone only pays Skype $60 a year, there will be no phones. Period.

This has been in the cards for a long time

Anyone with a bit of tech-savvy has seen this coming for many years. It's all data now, & we don't need the phone companies. Goodbye & good riddance.

Data plan rates

I suspect that we will end up with something similar to comcast. I can only get internet from them at $45/month IF I have a bundle with TV. Without basic cable I pay $65/month for internet. With basic cable I pay $66.50.

I suspect that since most of these telecoms are not ready to change their business model to make it work for those on the cutting edge using just a data plan you will find it hard (at least here in the US) to get a cutting edge phone to use on any network.

I don't disagree with your dream. I dream of Apple embracing a multi-band device and allowing us to buy "unlocked" iPhones that will work over WiMax, Wifi, 3G, etc. Now that would be great.

Skype is OK on the iPhone. The call quality is GREAT but the experience is limited by the applications lack of features (shared contact lists, no bluetooth, etc.) whether they are API problems or not it is going to be a while before I feel comfortable ditching my voice plan. (it expires in June).

I look forward to hearing about your experience living voice plan free. :-)