Industry


Ads by TechWords

See your link here


The FIOS adventure begins

Well, I finally took the plunge and ordered Verizon FIOS.

I currently use Comcast for Internet and TV, with Vonage for phone service. The Verizon bundled service for all three will be a little more expensive, but it will eliminate my concerns about shaky phone service, iffy 911 response and the viability of Vonage itself.

I just got tired of losing phone service for no apparent reason and having to reset a router, modem and wireless access point (AP) in a certain order to regain connectivity.

I also worried about 911. Sure, Vonage said it would work and the emergency response people would have my address if I called, but I was too chicken to place a test call and find out. I've heard that 911 dispatchers sometimes don't take kindly to calls that arent' really emergencies. We also have two cell phones as backup, but they take time to start up and have connection/battery problems themselves. With two small children in the house, we need something more reliable.

Then, of course, there are the more mundane concerns about TV channel options and Internet download/upload speed. Verizon FIOS was named the best broadband ISP in an exclusive Computerworld survey, so I'm hoping for the best.

I am a little concerned about how I will network the PCs in the house. I currently have a broadband modem feeding a Vonage router. The Vonage router, besides connecting to the phones, feeds via Ethernet a nearby Windows 98 machine and a wireless AP that provides connectivity to a Windows XP machine (with a USB wireless adapter) in the basement. I also connect my work laptop to the network wirelessly and can transfer files among all three PCs, more or less.

Verizon says FIOS doesn't support Windows 98 so I suppose the tech will connect to the XP machine in the basement and I will have to somehow connect that PC to the Win 98 PC. Hopefully I can connect the AP to Verizon's router or modem or whatever they use and connect the wireless adapter to the Win 98 via USB and get full network connectivity.

I've done a tiny bit of research and read something about FIOS installations coming with a wireless router. If that's the case, maybe that router will connect to the Win 98 machine via the wireless adapter and I can do away with the AP altogether.

It sounds simple enough but I've never tested the Win 98 machine with the wireless adapter and over the years I've learned that NOTHING I ever do with a computer installation of any kind is simple. I always end up reinstalling everything (including operating systems) four or five times until it just finally works, for some reason, many hours after I started.

I guess my other options would be to run an Ethernet cable to the Win 98 machine. Or upgrade to XP on that old box (I have no interest whatsoever in Vista). I'd just rather not do that since the old clunker works fine for what it's used for: Internet browsing, burning CDs/DVDs and word processing. I never really needed to upgrade so I never did.

So, anybody with relevant experience with this kind of a setup, please weigh in with any tips, observations or questions. If I have to upgrade the Win 98 dinosaur to get network connectivity, I should do it before the installation tech comes. So please let me know what you think.

This is sure to be a disaster, judging from past experience, so I'll keep you posted!

What People Are Saying

well

It was the one about narratives in games that really pissed me off. They credit the cheap rip offs and late comers as the innovators. They come up with ridiculous thesis that they have to warp the facts to fit, and then it just gets awful when they try to use EA sporting games to support the idea that a good narrative is essential to a good game. I think that was the second (and for me, final) episode.

FIOS install was a time sink

I had FIOS commercial Internet for 1.5 years because of the static IPs I could get. It worked great. When I didn't use the IPs and residential Internet, TV, and phone became available, I signed up for them. On the day I ordered the Residential service, about 3 weeks before the installation, my Internet (commercial) account was disabled. This was over the weekend before New Years. It took FIOS tech support 5 days to get it re-established. Someone didn't read the dates on the order and the scripts that run are quite functional. This time included me on the phone for 12-15 hours-on hold, waiting to talk to a rep, answering the same question 6-8 times with different reps.
On the Sunday before installation, I received an automated call verifying that I still wanted the appointment on Tuesday. I answered yes. My Internet (commercial) account was shut down again. Observation: Moving from Commercial to Residential service is a RARE event in VerizonLand, and there are few, if any, policies and procedures in place to troubleshoot this. This problem extends to order entry, order placement, tech support, network engineering, etc.
When Installation day arrived, the installation Techs were there nice and early (Verizon employees), they plugged in the Verizon Actiontec router, the Internet came up right away, the phone cut over just fine (getting away from a spaghetti wired phone box from my neighbors was very beneficial) and the TV even started OK. For a few days. Then, suddenly, a couple days later, the Guide (program information) button, and the VOD (video on demand) button didn't produce the expected information. After 10 or 11 days, 10 or so support experts, including a superviser in Everett, WA, assuring me that an additional 24-hour wait would give time to the proper group to complete the repair. Finally, at the end, a tech named John finally took ownership of the problem (what a concept-unseen anywhere else in the FIOS world), found out that there is 1 database for storing the individual network IP address for my house, and another database that stores the Verizon internal IP Addresses pointing to the internal Guide and VOD information servers and that one of the IP addresses was pointed at the Commercial side of FIOS.
Since this got sorted out, the service has been great-no trouble with the phone, Internet, or the TV! What a relief! I was beginning to wonder there for awhile.
Config: Coax from Actiontec router to outside, router to NetScreen 5 GT (firewall) internal WAP in bridge mode, and the rest of my internal network, both wired and wireless.

Fios Support

Al,
I worked in FIOS almost 2.5 years and I can tell by your experience you must have gotten someone in the Providence FSC ,where I worked, who finally fixed your issue. I used to work with chronic issues all the time and that is the best group of techs to get because it WILL get fixed correctly there. I used to get people telling me I was the 5th or 6th tech and how come I got them fixed and noone else could. RI Rules !!

My Verizon FIOS is acting strange

Hi, I have Verizon FIOS wireless internet and over the past few days the internet drops out around 12:00 pm and then comes back on at about 7:47 pm, I am not sure if Verizon is putting some sort of "time limit" on my internet connection but it is very annoying! If you have any idea on what the cause might be that would be great! I do know for a fact that it is not because of the heat outside because it gets hot way before the internet shuts off at 12:00 pm.

Verizon Set My House on Fire!

Verizon set my house on fire when they began my FIOS installation! Really!

They used hillbilly contractors, not Verizon employees, and the idiots actually drilled into my breaker panel box, almost electrocuted themselves (Too bad they didn't - It would have made for a great "Darwin Award"), and the electrical wiring feeding the breaker box caught on fire!

This gets better: When they realized what they had done, instead of even staying to try and put out the fire, the contractors ran out of the house and hopped into their truck and drove off, never to be seen again, so we called 911.

Verizon was resistant to paying for the damage until we told them we'd found an assistant DA who had a similar bad FIOS installation experience who was willing to indict them for arson, and when this happened, we were going to send a press release to all the local media outlets.

This got bumped up to a senior operations manager and they suddenly became very, very accomodating.

That is the difference

That is the difference between skilled union employees and hack contractors. (At least the skilled employee would of stayed and made smores)

My thoughts

As much as it pains me to say it, our transition from Comcast to Verizon FIOS was actually pretty painless. We had Comcast for tv and internet, and Verizon for our land-line telephone, and ended up switching to Verizon for all 3. In the end, we got more reliable and faster internet, more HD channels (though the total number of channels stayed about the same), and the total bill actually went down about $25/month.

Here's the breakdown on our experience:
Verizon will supply a router loaded with their own custom firmware- ours was an ActionTec, but I can't say for sure if yours will be the same.

The router can connect to the outside world via either RJ-45 or coaxial inputs. If your install tech wires an RJ-45 connection for you to use, I believe you can simply replace the router with whatever model you want after he leaves. If they connect it through the co-ax, you have to use their router, but you can change the settings to turn it into a simple bridge and then insert your own router between the one they supply and your computers.

The router is managed through your browser, so as long as your 98 box has an internet browser and javascript, I don't see why it wouldn't work. Chances are they didn't want to teach their techs where normal network settings were in win98, so they just said it wouldn't work instead.

The router they supply does support 4 wired computers, plus 802.11 A/B/G with WEP/WPA.

For our install, the tech gave me the router, and I had all of our computers connected and on the internet by the time he managed to plug in the cable boxes for the tv. (I've since put the router in bridge mode and put my personal router back in the mix)

Normally I'm first in line to bash the huge corporations for their lousy service and terrible customer service, but honestly I can't complain this time. After 6 months of service, we've had one outage, which lasted under an hour, and everything else has been just peachy. Their customer service still bites pretty hard, but the internet/tv services have been far superior to our experiense with Comcast.

Verizon FIOS

I have been using Verizon FIOS for internet connection for several months. My installation did come with a combination modem/router/wireless AP.

I encountered no problems either with the initial installation nor with several months of use. I currently do not use internet phone service and I have maintained my Time Warner cable for TV.

I currently have one Dell desktop hard wired to the router and three laptops, two PC and one MAC connected using WiFi.

Ofcr124