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Apple versus Google

Verizon said to be pursuing Apple's iPhone (again)

USA Today's post today is the latest in a series of reports that Verizon is clamoring for the iPhone.  According to "people familiar with the situation", Verizon and Apple have been having high level talks throughout the year and even into last year.

The New York-based telecom entered into "high-level" discussions with Apple management a few months ago, when CEO Steve Jobs was overseeing day-to-day business, these sources say.

Steve Jobs was effectively off the job by the holidays of last year, which means the Verizon discussions were going on since 2008, if not earlier.

What is interesting is that the USA Today has reported two different timeframes for the AT&T-Apple exclusivity deals up until this point, neither of which would allow Verizon on the iPhone until 2011.  More recent reports have speculated that the iPhone contract with AT&T ends next year.

If the iPhone is introduced to Verizon next year, it won't be on the next generation LTE 4G wireless protocol - that isn't due until the following year.  It will use the same CDMA technology that current Verizon customers enjoy.

It would mark the first time Apple has produced a version of the iPhone for a CDMA wireless network, which is different from AT&T's GSM technology. Vodafone, co-owner of Verizon Wireless, already sells the iPhone in Europe.

Another thing going against Verizon is that CDMA phones don't work outside of the US and Canada.  Apple had been rumored to be working on a different, incompatible band of CDMA for Mainland Chinese markets.  Verizon iPhones would have to have hybrid wireless cards to travel internationally or they just won't work overseas.  Apple will have to develop a totally new iPhone for Verizon's market.

However, with 80 Million subscribers, the biggest customer base in the US, even grabbing a few percentage points of Verizon's market would yield a couple million iPhones. 

Last week, Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg said that it was unlikely that the iPhone would reach Verizon's network until 2011 and the LTE rollout.  If the USA Today is to be believed, something monumental would have had to have changed.  

This isn't the first report of Verizon joining the iPhone bandwagon.  Many have speculated that Verizon was the first wireless company that Apple had approached when shopping the iPhone around.  The story goes that Verizon wanted too much control over the device, so Apple went to Cingular, which bought AT&T shortly thereafter.  

Along the way, there have been reports of chats between Verizon and Apple and other clues that they indeed may be working on a combined solution.

As an iPhone fan and AT&T customer until my contract runs out in a few months, this news really gives me pause.  I don't want to renew with AT&T, which in my geographic location (I live in a rural outpost called New York City) and customer support experience has been the worst for any wireless carrier I've ever used.  This may give me, and people in my situation, hope.

What People Are Saying

iphone/Verizon

I'll have to second the above comment from the flight attendant!
As long as Verizon has a a CDMA (inferior) service, and I need to get something else to carry my iPhone outside the country,..No way !!!
Verizon's service isn't that much better than AT&T's is. 3G is world wide and 4G is coming soon enough.
In my case both in NYC as well In many other metro areas, AT&T has been good enough. Minor issues at the most.
Granted I would like to have the Europeans' freedom to choose any carrier I want, but we do live in the land of the free...right?
As it is we're "fighting" to have decent internet access outside any metro area!!..
Verizon can say anything they want, i want a phone with a sim card, end of story!

Verizon please contract with 1phone! ASAP!!!

I don't want to change my carrier (2 lines)from Verizon to AT&T. I hate AT&T service...

I agree with everyone...PLEASE!!!

Please Apple, get a phone deal with Verizon!! I love Verizon's service but I would absolutely LOVE to be able to get an iphone!! I wasn't that impressed at first but as of late, I would love to get one, however, I won't change my service because it is GREAT!!

If Apple and Verizon could

If Apple and Verizon could come up with some sort of deal that would be extremely great for all of us.

PLEASE!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE add the iPhone to Verizon! I have an iphone now, which I love, but I HATE AT&T! I get horrible reception everywhere I go, which makes Apple look bad as well. Apple, if you switch to Verizon, I will follow and yes, buy another iPhone!

Where are you traveling to.

Where are you traveling to. I live in the Bronx, NY and I get Fabulous service with AT&T. I am also a Flight Attendant. I travel Extensively in the US and abroad and again. The service is fabulous. I have tried Verizon time and time again and I will definitely stay with AT&T. I am able to pack up and go anywhere in the world and without having to make a trip to the store to get a loaner phone. OMG, could you imagine.

Can't wait

I am currently a Verizon customer. I really want the iPhone but, naturally, I'm reluctant to sign a contract with AT&T and its inferior network. I had basically decided to switch in spite of this fact, but I would be thrilled to see the iPhone on Verizon! I wish I could see the future so I could decide whether or not it's worth it to switch to AT&T or wait until Verizon gets the iPhone.

Does the current ATT and

Does the current ATT and APPLES deal run through 2010 or is it up in 2010.

have a Blackberry on

have a Blackberry on Verizon's supreme network. I can use the GPS with Google Maps, Blackberry Maps and it is open to any other app that needs it. I also have had the best signal quality with Verizon. Also, if I call Verizon Customer Service I usually get a person in less than a minute. I would buy a VerIPhone for sure.

VerIphone

I have an Iphone and I love it but AT&T service in NYC is really poor. I also carry a Verizon blackberry for work. When my car broke down I tried calling for help on the Iphone. No service. Blackberry worked on the first try. I hope they get a deal with Verizon.