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VMware exec says Windows days are numbered

Seriously.

In an ITWire tale, Paul Harapin, VMware's managing director for Australia and New Zealand said Windows is already being replaced by virtual appliances running on Linux. In ten-years, there will be no more Windows.

OK. I know people at Red Hat who would say that that's exactly what will happen. That's right out of the new Red Hat KVM-based virtualization playbook. But, someone from VMware saying this? Wow.

Harapin went on to say, it is reported that "When you go to Cisco and say you want a router and a firewall, they provide you with an appliance."Inside that appliance is probably a bootstrapped Linux operating system that they manage themselves, there's memory and all sorts of devices. If something goes wrong with that appliance, you don't open up the router and try to determine whether it's an OS problem or a memory problem, you simply call Cisco and tell them that's there's a problem with your appliance."

Of course, what he describes here isn't new. People have been building and selling server appliances for years.

Harapin's not just thinking servers though. He's thinking the end of all "large commercial operating systems." Instead, we'll use special-purpose computers that are customized to run a particular application or set of applications. "They essentially package that up as an appliance, a running server or a running application, and they send it to you."

Sound crazy? I don't know. Notice how many applications we're putting on the 3G iPhone? He may be on to something.

But, again, why is someone from VMware saying this? VMware, I've predicted, is going to get run over by Microsoft Hyper-V on one side, and Linux with KVM and Xen on the other. The only role VMware plays in this is as a smear on the IT super-highway.

Unless... VMware is hinting that it may be going into this appliance business. VMware as a platform vendor. That would be interesting. VMware does have a new CEO, Paul Maritz. After almost 15-years at Microsoft, where he oversaw perhaps Microsoft's most significant operating systems roll outs, Windows 95 and NT, Maritz is used to thinking big.

Big enough to see that VMware can't make it as virtualization company, must embrace Linux, and reposition VMware as the platform company for the 21st century? Maybe. I don't know.

I will say this though; this is a lot more interesting, and possibly profitable, scenario for VMware's future than any of the ones I had come up with. VMware lives in interesting times.

What People Are Saying

Well... I Like Linux and

Well... I Like Linux and really want to completely move to Linux. But I always stuck on my hardware driver. It's very hard to make them work as in windows.

M$ down..mmmm...doubutful

We as Users should have a choice. I agree that one should us the OS that they feel best for them. I like Windows and Linux.If you WANT to run Vista then fine but they should also be able to choose Linux-BSD-Unix and only pay minimal installation costs and also know what the differences between these operating systems. Would make PCs and Laptop and Nettops cheaper give the end user a choice. Instead of paying high dollar for M$ Windows range high dollar but lets see with the age of torrents and p2p cracked versions of windows bypass the so called Windows Genuine Product and Activation.So really in long run M$ is Going down in sort of way to many people around the globe using torrent and p2p to get XP Vista and Now Windows 7. So really in the long run MS is going to lose money in this way. It becomes more obvious that maybe MS should considering a OS that has a Windows Kerenl( that has windows 3.1 to Windows 7 drivers include in a package) and choice of window managers and programs(old and newer) sort of much like Linux operating system. Linux uses resources much more efficiently, is very modular and stable. only if MS would come out with such a product, seems the push toward Open Source is getting to be a big business and not to mention that now with VMWare, VirtualBox, Bochs, and others make it easier to have a host os of choice then run Linux and all Windows in one PC.
Where I work for a Global company not M$ (not to publish a where) but we have machines that uses windows 3.1 Nt which print labels which is simple program in 3.1 as well windows 2000 and XP still in use and theres know sign of them going to Vista. And some of the hand held stuff is mostly Linux kernel, such as Bar code readers and certain machine operate in Linux to as well as M$. But with all said Linux is Getting better then it was 5-10 years ago. I would like to see that ReactOS would be the one that put M$ down the hole or M$ make something in that means.

180 Millions licenses sold

Im pretty sure since vista was released if we counted how many times linux was downloaded and by linux i refer to all the flavours the numbers might be slightly higher.

As for Vista not failing, yes i am sure it is not hence why windows 7 is being developed and will probably be released in the not too distant future.

But considering this report is on Virtualization, I believe Linux has an advantage since it more or less come bundled with it. This will obviously change but it seems a lot of Microsofts key decisions / moves are positioning itself as a solutions provider aka like IBM etc.

Interesting viewpoint

I worked at RH years ago, and while there were those who voiced the "Linux will kill Windows" statement, still many others were wise enough to view the two OSes as disparate tools to accomplish many of the same goals. While Linux retains the most potential for creativity by virtue (no pun) of its open source birthright and its modular architecture, Windows remains the best choice for consumers until the time when an OS is no longer tied to the computer, but dished out to machines plugging into the network.

At such a time, I can foresee the ability to run virtualization in order to serve applications and increase productivity.

I'm going to disagree

Why? Next time there is a power failure in yoru area, go to the ATM for a MAJOR bank and see which OS it is running. You won't see anything about logging in a linux bootscreen, you will see embedded Windows 2000 running those ATMs, even the fancy new ones. Is that marketing? Not a chance. Banks don't listen to salesmen, they listen to security experts. Bash MS all you want, I STILL run Win2k, and will keep on doing so for a long time to come. Now you know why.

Need another example? Ok, police cruisers. They run (ding ding ding) Embedded Win2k. Is this marketing? Nope. The police need a secure system also, do they not?

Point, set, and game.

Huh?

Dude,
MS no longer supports W2000...what next,,,bring back OS/2? :)

My snappy retort

See the Win2K updates from March 2009? I suppose you are very wrong and now will unbury your head from the sand.

Just kidding, but only kinda ;)

Ah, so that's why the fancy

Ah, so that's why the fancy new ATM's at my local bank branch are down 50% of the time! Thanks for the info!

Desktop OS? Who needs the overhead...

All we really need is a base platform that allows file shares and app streaming to the client. Thin clients are coming back and will take over the traditional desktop. Mainframes with streamed data and apps - fully conglomerated and centrally administered from several cloned, load balanced servers in a farm. I hate to say it, but desktop support is a dying trend. IT management is starting to see the lack of value in giving users control over their own personal resources. It creates too much headache and excessive work = lost revenue.

With technologies like Citrix, Xen and Ardence, the desktop's lifespan is growing shorter. They now have "Jack PC's" that are just what the name implies, the size of a wall jack. No desktop, no case. You just plug the keyboard, monitor, mouse and network cable into the wall jack and every thing is streamed to it. All the processing happens server side. And why the heck not? With all the multi-quad proc (and soon to be multi-oct core proc)servers, they can handle the load of 30+ desktop machines for a fraction of the cost.

So yes, Microsoft is at risk. But who cares? They have dominated long enough and made more revenue than any other organization in the history of mankind. Enough already. [Damn I wish I had bought stock back in college.] Doh!

People like what they know

I have worked on Windows development for years but now work on Linux based development (both at kernel/driver level so I know a little bit about O/S internals in both cases). I have done some development on Vista but now do most of my development on Red Hat Enterprise Linux or Ubuntu (at home).

Most people do not know anything (much) about the operating system and just blindly assume that PCs HAVE to run Windows (whether that be XP, Vista or whatever). Many people (in the UK) have now heard of Linux but don't know what it is.

I rebuilt my next door neighbour's PC several times (from his own disks) after another relative trashed it and he got so annoyed with Windows (XP) that I suggested Ubuntu (which he now uses). It took him about 1/2 an hour to get used to it and then carried on as though he had been using it for ages. I did (of course) help him set up his printer and SAMBA file sharing (which he would have had problems with). He was amazed that it was all free and very stable and is very happy with his system. Other members of his family have Vista on laptops and don't like his PC since "It isn't running Windows".

Yeah right!

This has (alas) not been the reaction from other people that I have mentioned Linux too. Many assume that it has been pirated since it is free and other get worried that I don't run a virus scanner (even though I lock everything down, have a firewall and keep everything patched and up to date).

People like what they know. Linux will achieve greater market penetration but only through more awareness with appliences like the Asus Eee PC and when people realise that the same PC hardware will (generally) run much faster with Linux on than Windows (although it does depend on the usage criteria such as whether you are running games).

Personally I have been using openSUSE and now Ubuntu Linux (64 bit) on a day-to-day basis (and yes I play MP3 files, capture video/burn DVDs, play Doom III and share documents with Windows users) and it is just as good a desktop system if not better than Vista. Also I do not have any pirated software on any of my PCs and did not pay a penny for any of it (quite legally) although I have contributed voluntarily to a couple of open source projects.

Those of us in the know realize that there are alternatives to Vista, that they work fine and are more stable/virus free/cost nothing - i.e. we don't have to pay the Microsoft tax.

I do not want EVERYONE to move over to Linux but would like everyone to know that you DON'T HAVE TO RUN VISTA. If you like Vista then stick with it - nobody is forcing you to use Linux.

In the same way don't try and claim that Linux is no good as a desktop operating system as I and many others are finding that this is pure FUD and just untrue. Linux users (in general) don't want to run Microsoft Office, Photoshop, Nero Burning Rom because they (we) have suitable equivilents that work just as well (thank you very much) as the closed source programs and cost ยฃ0.00.

Users should have a choice. If they WANT to run Vista (and pay for it) then fine but they should also be able to choose Linux (or even BSD-Unix or ReactOS) and only pay minimal installation costs and also know what the differences between these operating systems are. At the moment, Microsoft does not want Joe Public to have this choice as they will (to some extent) lose out.