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Who's buddying up closer with Microsoft: Novell or Red Hat?

I know for a fact that either Novell or Red Hat, or perhaps both, will be announcing next week that they'll be shifting their server virtualization offerings from Xen to XenServer. What I don't know is what, if anything, either one of them may be doing beyond that to further their virtualization partnerships with Microsoft.

One or the other, however, is going to make a major move. This has been building for some time. Novell, of course, has long had a partnership with Microsoft.

On the other hand, Red Hat has just partnered, for the first time ever, with Microsoft to co-ordinate their virtualization efforts.

What's pushing all this activity along is Citrix making XenServer free as it moves from pure virtualization into virtualization management, and a renewal of its buddy-buddy relationship with Microsoft. What all this has to do with Red Hat and/or Novell in particular is that all four companies want a bigger part of the enterprise virtualization pie, and that means ganging up on VMware.

The reason this is being announced next week -- thanks to sources, I already have some of the news -- is because VMware is having its big VMware Europe show at the same time. There is no coincidence whatsoever that Citrix will be announcing its shift from virtualization to virtualization management on February 23rd, the show's first day.

What's also interesting is that Red Hat will be making an announcement that day. I don't know what they're going to be saying, but the timing is interesting don't you think?

As for Novell, they haven't said a word to me for the last week or so. That's odd. That's very odd. I know pretty much everyone at the C-level at Novell and many of the developers and software engineers.

Maybe, although I hope not, they'll be laying off employees after all. Their quarterly report is also next week, which is when the executives have to face up to the board and the stockholders. I don't know how well, or not, Novell is doing. I do know that in these tough times that Red Hat has been doing quite well.

Or, since Novell has, when last I checked a billion or so in cash, perhaps Novell will be buying and/or taking over Xen from Citrix. It could happen. Citrix and Xen was never a comfortable fit. I suspect the Xen developers would fit in well with the SUSE crew.

What will really happen? Darned if I know. I do know that it's going to be an interesting week for all these companies.

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Citrix is a bit expensive

Though not what they used to be, Citrix does have a $3.9B market cap (Novell is $1.1B). I don't have any information one way or the other here but your notion that Novell might buy Citrix doesn't make mathematical sense on the surface.

Ha Ha Ha

You're right about that last part - you have no idea what you're talking about.

The odds of Red Hat switching to XenServer are zero. They still think KVM's the future, esp after their purchase of Qumranet.

Novell has to hedge. I don't think any of their management tools support KVM (yet), so Xen is their only viable virtualization offering. BUT, they're aren't going to bet on Xen, long term, with Red Hat pouring resources into KVM. If Linux goes KVM, Novell has to follow (and let Red Hat do the heavy lifting of bringing it to maturity)

But none of this matters. Red Hat, Novell, and Sun are just going to remain bit players, with VMWare working to stay ahead of Microsoft, and Microsoft trying to eat the market out from under them.

The question isn't what Red Hat or Novell will announce. The real question is, "Who cares?"

Umm, do you understand all

Umm, do you understand all the business decisions behind RedHat purchasing Qumranet? Did Solid ICE ever come into the equation for you? Did you consider that Oracle is contributing to Xen via Oracle VM? Have you heard what Wim Coekaerts has said about KVM vs Xen? Did you know that there isn't all that much heavy lifting that has to go on? Virt-Manager / libvirt already work with both? Did you know that Novell has certified their OS to run inside OVM's hypervisor?

Don't make factual statements without backing them up with known facts.

Red Hat users owe Microsoft for the IP they stole

from the horse's orifice;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B0GTYfPoMo

and he is kind enough to remind us at the very beginning which distro recognizes that Linux has stolen Microsoft's IP.

Doing Novell damage control are we?

The question is totally off the mark since Novell and Red Hat partnered up in TOTALLY different ways which explains why the reaction is so different.

Most FLOSS developers dont have problems working with Microsoft since many of us are old enough to remember when IBM was the big bad wolf. I now work on GPLed projects alongside IBM employees.
No problem since they follow the rules and if Redmond employees want to work on it the same way, fine.

Red Hat can cozy up to them enough to give Ballmer a prostate exam, as long as they do it in the way they did this deal which doenst affect the rest of us; enjoy. Novell on the other hand sold out the community for a few doubloons helping push the IP idiocy where only Novell Linux is safe to use because they paid the extortion deal.

We owe NOTHING to Microsoft. Their claims of 235 patents are nothing more than FUD which Novell has used to their advantage ( as "WE ARE NOT ILLEGAL, ALL OTHER DISTROS HAVE STOLEN IP IN IT BUT NOT US")
But i dont have to rehash this whole sordid Novell saga.

We know what Novell did and we know what Red Hat did.
The question is totally off the mark since Novell and Red Hat partnered up in TOTALLY different ways which explains why the reaction is so different to deals no matter how some writers might be tempted to insinuate that they are.

Which is why this makes it a sleazy attempt.

Until I see Red Hat sell the Linux community the way that Novell did, thats all youre doing; running interference for Novell like you often do.

We know how that ended up being beneficial to Peter Galli when he was a tech writer, so good luck with that.

PS: If Red Hat signs a deal similar to Novell, I will be the first one here to denounce them.

Really?

Funny.. Since RedHat built their business on the backs of OS linux development, then dropped their free distro, only then to come up with Fedora when they realized that was a bad move.

Novell on the other hand has spent a lot of legal defense time and money in defense of linux, and after buying SuSE, open it up much more than it was previously...

No company is perfect, and some ARE worse than others. Just don't let your fanboyism cloud your judgement, or revise history.

Re: revising history

Show proof if I'm wrong, but I thought the Red Hat announcement of splitting their OS into RHEL and Fedora was a single announcement. I don't think Fedora was Red Hat backtracking on a bad move.

My money's on Novell

I'm betting my money on Novell. They were the first to introduce Xen virtualization in an Enterprise Release and they have an old partnership with Microsoft.