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Who's still using Windows 3.1? (And Amiga OS?)

Ok, you know who you are. Fess up.

CW's Web analytics app shows somebody accessed our site this month using Windows 3.x.

Even more startling, exactly one person used Amiga OS.

Amiga OS?

Yes, based on the OS of the computer that first shipped in 1985. I really want to know who's using the Amiga OS. Please write to me. There has to be a story there.

Surprisingly, Wikipedia says that the OS has been bought and sold and revised and licensed a bunch of times but still has a "stable" release as of September 2008. Does that mean that besides a CW reader using it, someone is actually still developing it?

I didn't know Web logs could be so interesting. They show some OSs I've never even heard of.

And they show you CW readers are a breed apart from the "Internet Average." You use Windows XP and Vista less than the mainstream and Mac OS and Linux much more than the general populace. I knew the CW reader was smarter than the average bear. (But surprisingly little iPhone use -- what's up with that?)

And browsers?

Somebody is using Wget. And Galeon 1.2.0.

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?

Interestingly, you readers use Firefox much more than the average and IE much less. There you go -- I love iconoclasts (me, I'm using a Mac and Firefox).

Please, please write to me if you're using some of this obscure stuff. I really need to know your stories. You can comment below or e-mail me at david_ramel@computerworld.com or message me via AIM at davidramel.

The logs show a bunch of "not specified" OSs and "unknown" browser versions, so who knows what you might come up with?

I can't wait.

What People Are Saying

AMIGA: WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE

i use an amiga computer with
4MB OF RAM

25MHZ PROCESSOR

569 MB hard drive.

and i built by own operating system for it. i built it under microsoft windows 3.11 fwg.

and it runs beautifully. i gave it 32 bit video.

and an nic card via external attachment.

anyone want to ask any questions. bquam28@gmail.com

I did it

I have an a600 and accessed your site a few times when setting up my internet/lan for my amiga.

AmigaOS

Yep, still using one.

Does its job, does as its told and does it very fast. how many of you can say your desktop will appear within 4 seconds from powerup?

prior to the internet it was a gaming machine, wow we all remember where the good games were born ;)

Now for browsing, Irc, email, newsreading, etc. I have no interest in changing to another machine!

Who is still using Amiga OS ?!?!

Lol, anyone interested in a WELL WRITTEN, EFFICIENT OS.

My question to you is, who is the hell is still using Windows or Mac OS?!?!?!

Thats a mind bender.

Who is still using Amiga OS ?!?!

Lol, anyone interested in a WELL WRITTEN, EFFICIENT OS.

My question to you is, who is the hell is still using Windows or Mac OS?!?!?!

Thats a mind bender.

Ive currently jumped on the

Ive currently jumped on the band wagon with the sam440ep running amigaos4.1 using OWB as my browser. Such a pleasent and very quiet os to use. The sam is such a quiet machine to use, if your used to a noisey pc then this machine is a gods end!

sam440

how is it working? I'm thinking of building a samantha. Is there a main forum you go to? If not, was thinking of setting up a site for sam440

reply

Yes, visit AmigaWorld

Amiga Forever

I'm a PC user with two flavors of Windows (including, ack, Vista), a Mac OSX box and a Linux box. I like Linux the best among those, with the Mac a close second. But sentimentally speaking, none of them hold a candle to the Amiga.

I own four Amigas. One is now on life support but still functional and capable of useful work, 18 years after I bought it. My other Amigas are all fine.

The Amiga offered the first pure 32-bit multitasking OS, which made it not only a 3D (stereoscopic as well as virtual) gamers delight but also a special box for video and music and other heavy duty tasks.

People would come over to my house for parties and get completely entranced playing 3D-sim and first-person shootem-up games on my lowly Amiga 500, which had only a single 880K diskette drive and no hard drive, although I eventually added one.

Eventually I ran a cable access TV studio and we installed several Amigas to do all the CG and special effects chores. Couldn't get the IT boys to approve that until we stopped calling the Amiga a computer and started calling it a "video graphics compositor." Because, you see, the IT boys considered Intel-based PCs as the only real business desktop computers.

My most tricked-out Amiga, at its heyday in the early 1990s, was equipped with cheap, off-the-shelf hardware emulation handling virtual MS-DOS/Windows and Apple Macintosh sessions when I needed them (the DOS/Windows sessions ran concurrently, with full cut and paste to and from the Amiga side of the system). That Amiga also sent documents to a laserjet and a color thermal printer. It managed an OCR/image scanner and up to six SCSI devices (hard drives and other peripherals), and it did all the above reasonably well running at a mere 8 Mhz. That's EIGHT MEGAHERTZ. Running at 50 or 60 Mhz (which late-model, aftermarket systems could achieve) made the Amiga a potential screamer well into the 1990s.

The Amiga motherboard's dedicated graphics, sound and other coprocessors helped make this level of efficiency possible. Also, a large chunk of the OS was stored in ROM, and there were fairly frequent ROM upgrades. Bootup was fast; Windows boxes are just getting around to that idea.

A bootable, recoverable RAM disk may not sound like a big deal, but back in the days when hard drives were pricey, I can't tell you how many times that Amiga feature saved my bacon because of a power outage or the very rare system crash -- which produced the adorable "Guru Meditation Error" screens.

The Amiga was the true all-around creative tool among all personal computing platforms. Stereo sound, speech synthesis and out-of-the-box video output were standard. The system could multitask easily on a meg of RAM, and it was simple but elegant, with a native 4096 color mode and only later 24-bit cards. The Atari ST and Mac made in-roads in these direction, but the Amiga plowed a huge path.

And it was the little things. Do you like Microsoft's "Plug and Pray" device configuration? Long before that came along, the Amiga OS offered Autoconfig. Plop an expansion board of almost any kind into one of its proprietary or ISA slots and, boom, they were recognized by the system, and they worked.

True, the original Amiga machines -- no matter how heavily tricked out -- can't very well match up with modern systems that sport 6 gigs of RAM and multi-gigahertz dual or quad processors. But you'd be surprised how close they can come.

The Amiga gear I have is now, after two decades, beginning to wear out; a lot of it can be replaced but some of it can't, without scrounging used parts. So I have the WinUAE emulator installed in a Windows machine. It's the only solution, for now.

Can't explain it better than this: I simply can't let go. I cut my personal computing teeth on DOS and CP/M boxes, and when the Amiga came along, I fell in love. Amigas are fun bags that also happen to do real work in a straightforward fashion. Beyond that, the guys who invented the OS and the original hardware were the real garage freaks, offering up common sense gear and whimsy, too. Which is why their names ought to be enshrined in any museum of computer history.

You know those professional photographers who like shooting with archaic pinhole cameras to see how far they can push the experience? The analogy is clear to me: It will, in all likelihood, come to that with the still sizable and hard corps group of Amiga fanatics. When we're all dead, then maybe the Amiga will fade away. Or not.

I still have my Amiga 1000

I still have my Amiga 1000 and 3000. Back then I took these computers rather seriously. I never cared for the A500/1200 and the 2000 was way to ugly.

If commodore was smart (they never were), the A1200 would have replaced the A1000, All it would have needed to be is like an A500, but in an A1000 like case with a single internal slot... and sell it for $800... It would have sold very well. But instead, we had a $600 toy-like computer or a $1500~2500 brown ugly beast with 4 useless PC ISA slots!

Also, a de-interlacer was needed for business to consider the Amiga, but that wasn't until the $2500~3000 A3000 came out and then 3 years later the A1200/4000 - OUCH. I purposly bought an A3000 because I HATED the A1200... its deinterlacer quality was poor. I bought my NEW A3000 for $800 (Same price of an A1200 with a HD)... and I knew C=/Amiga were going to die. I even had a de-interlacer in my A1000, worked great!

My A1000 still works with 2MB! of RAM, storage. My A3000 is near my PCs, but it's not been turned on for years. I love(d) my Amigas... I've yet to love a PC. Amiga and Jay Miner (who I've talked to once) RIP.

Linux is very Amiga like, its easier for Amiga users to migrate to that, rather than deal with the mess that is Amiga Inc or whatever.
$500 nowadays gets a person a dual-core AMD CPU, 3GB RAM, 250GB HD, 3D video, DVD burner and a 19~20" LCD monitor. In 1993, the A1200 was a $600 toy that needed a Hard Drive. Again, an "A1500" that was like the A1000 would have been helpful as the A4000 was way to expensive... compared to PCs at that time.

Amiga OS 3.0 (1992) is still more advanced the WindowsXP in some ways. The Amiga was an elegant OS, the hardware was very well made for its time that took 10 years for MS to have a product that was usable. But all it took was greed and stupidity of Commodore to kill it.

The Windows and Mac users of the world don't know that Amiga was a very important part of computing. It gave us multimedia and gaming.

But I'm much more of a realist nowadays, but I still laugh a bit on the inside when installing XP on a new computer and thinking "Setting up a 1990 Amiga computer was more high-tech than this".

To other Amiga users: I have no "love" for XP, but on good hardware - my XP quad core setup is fast and smooth, it doesn't crash 1/100th the time of my Amigas. I'll always have a soft spot for my A1000.