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Seeing Through Windows

Why Apple disdains netbooks

Every PC maker on the planet loves netbooks because they're the fastest-growing segment (and the only growing segment) of the PC market. They all love netbooks except Apple, that is. Here's why.

Rumors have been circulating for a very long time that Apple has been working on a netbook. Mac fans had hoped that one was going to be introduced at the recent Macworld show. Fans were disappointed when no netbook was announced. And at the Apple quarterly earnings call yesterday, Tim Cook, Apple's chief operating officer, made clear that no netbook will be forthcoming soon --- if ever.

According to Wired, during that call Cook told analysts, "We've got some ideas, but right now we think the products there are inferior and will not provide the experience to customers that they're happy with."

According to Wired:

Cook added that netbooks are "principally based on hardware," and throughout the call he repeatedly stressed that Apple believes "software is the key ingredient."

That last statement may appear baffling at first, so you need to do a bit of translation to really understand what Cook is saying. It's this: There's not enough profit margin in netbooks for Apple to enter the market right now.

Clearly, Apple could easily get Mac OS X or a version of it to run on a netbook. But Apple always charges a premium for its hardware, and in the cutthroat netbook market right now, there's no room for charging a premium. Apple won't make any money by selling netbooks at $400. That's why Apple disdains netbooks.

But that disdain spells trouble for Apple. Some analysts believe that netbooks will outsell laptops at some point. And with a faltering economy, people are leery of paying a premium for any product, even one as well designed as Apple hardware. In ignoring netbooks, Apple may ultimately be harming its bottom line.

What People Are Saying

Can't believe no one has figured this out

Tim Cook's comment reinforces what I've thought ever since Snow Leopard was announced. From the article above: 'Cook added that netbooks are "principally based on hardware," and throughout the call he repeatedly stressed that Apple believes "software is the key ingredient."'

Biggest complaints I've heard about Netbooks are (a) they're too slow (this is why none run Vista), and (b) keyboard is too small.

Too slow. Hmmm... Well, OS X runs surprisingly well even on 5 or 6-year-old hardware. But, wait a minute....isn't the whole focus of Apple's Snow Leopard (next version of OS X) PERFORMANCE and FOOTPRINT of the OS??

Apple is working hard to make OS X run faster on existing hardware, which will benefit Macs, the iPhone, the iPod Touch, and....make OS X absolutely run *circles* around Windows XP and Linux in terms of performance.

Gee, sounds like a great OS to put on one of these slower netbook thingies... Re-read Tim Cook's comment (above) and see if this doesn't make perfect sense.

Apple following a trend?

Apple doesn't follow a trend, it creates it. Don't you remember? First PC: Apple; first mouse, first graphic desktop, first, first... When it isn't the first, it is the best and starts a trend, like de iPod, and then the iPhone.
That is where the money is.
And, by the way, Apple doesn't rip off anybody. You pay for what you get. You don't complain about the price of a Volvo, BMW, Mercedes...

Actually, Xerox invented

Actually, Xerox invented everything you listed above... nice try.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_GUI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_(computing)

Apple just re badges hardware for 1000$ more.
If owning a mac was like owning a euro car, I'd still be using my mac classic to be retro. Oh wait, I can't. It's black an white and doesn't have an Ethernet adapter.

Actually, Xerox invented... very few

GUI and mouse were invented in the 60'. Those people essaimed to Xerox and for some one to Apple. The guy in Apple convinced Jobs to visit Xerox Palo Alto's lab, and Jobs decided to adopt this in the Lisa, later the Mac. For that, they gave Xerox shares of Apple, because Xerox never thaught GUI and mices were useful things.
The real matter is : who put those in a commercial PC ? Apple. That's the facts.

and for your info, my old Mac SE (real SE, 8MHz 68000 with 4 MO RAM, not SE30) actually has an Ethernet adaptor (on the SCSI port) and can read/write mails and web pages (in txt mode....) while running MacOS 607.

Mr Right off target

Show me your Xerox PC. Yes, Xerox PARC invented mouse and GUI, but never marketed them beyond a few $10K machines.

And yes, owning a mac is like owning a euro car, modern, sleek, costs more up front, but costs less to maintain and lasts longer.

Douglas Engelbart

motie38: "Yes, Xerox PARC invented mouse and GUI"

What does it have to do with netbooks? You're wrong, anyway.

The mouse was invented by Douglas Engelbart at the Stanford Research Institute in the 1960's. SRI licensed it to Apple, according to Engelbart: "SRI patented it, but they really had no idea of its value. Some years later I learned that they had licensed it to Apple for something like $40,000."

http://preview.tinyurl.com/clyrqy

I'm sorry.

I was just answering MrRight, who was answering Anonymous. If I offended you by getting off subject, I apologize.

You are right about the invention of the mouse. My mistake. Many of the scientists who worked with Englebart quit and went to work at Xerox PARC. Apple's visits to PARC while working on the Mac early on are fairly well documented.

Nevertheless, the point of this thread of comments on the article were that you pay more up front for the Apple experience, and that Apple can't get the margins they want on netbooks.

On the other hand, Netbooks don't need Apple either. GNU/Linux based netbooks already have ease of use, reliability, and near immunity from malware. The only thing Apple could bring to the table is the App store. But if former Linspire's Click 'N Run were to be done right, even that advantage would be moot, since both Free(GPL) software and Commercial software could be offered with easy access and easy installation for netbook owners. That could then scale upward to larger notebooks and desktops, challenging both Apple and Microsoft.

In the eye of the beholder only

Your analogy assumes that there is actual increased value in owning a Mac, BMW, Volvo or Mercedes. In reality, when one must pay twice, three times or more for a similar product, the demographic of the end user changes, significantly skewing the results.

For instance, very few Mercedes, BMW or Volvo owners are going to use their vaulted overpriced equipment to tow boats, haul cinder blocks, lumber or furniture, pack 10 screaming, kicking and snacking kids into the fine leather interiors, drive them at break-neck speeds down dirt or gravel roads with disregard to soiling the finish (let alone all the other wear and tear that creates), or drive them for 150,000 miles without taking them in for monthly pampering by teams of certified mechanics.

Simply, it takes more money to drive a Mac, BMW or Mercedes, and if you have the extra money, you're going to treat it better, use it for differnt purposes and service it more often, because you have the money. And you don't normally do with a Mac, BMW or Mercedes those things you wouldn't think twice about doing with a PC, Ford or Chevy. Given the amount of abuse dealt to PCs, Fords and Chevys compared to Macs, BMWs and Mercedes, and their ability to continue down the road afterward, there is far more value in the former group than in the latter.

The "image" of a product as being "better" simply because it costs more is a fallacy.

Wha?

"Every PC maker on the planet loves netbooks because they're the fastest-growing segment (and the only growing segment) of the PC market."

It's just not true to say that all of the growth in the laptop segment is attributable to netbooks. Only 10 million were shipped in 2008, less than 1 million in the US according to IDC (see 1st link). Besides, PC makers are wary of netbooks because of the thin margins.

ยซThe dilemma: Big tech suppliers remain heavily reliant on sales of high-powered, high-priced laptops to drive profits. Profit margins are razor thin on netbooks. And shipping millions of cheap PCs could drive down consumers' expectations of what they should spend for a basic computer, Shim [an IDC analyst] says.ยป

www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2009-01-19-netbooks-future_N.htm

ยซThe entire category of so-called netbooks โ€“ personal computers designed primarily for Internet use โ€“ may be headed over a price cliff, according to industry analysts. [โ€ฆ] Heavy price competition is never a happy thing for manufacturers. More broadly, this netbook category has been a mixed blessing for the personal computer electronics industry.ยป

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/22/netbook-prices-are-now-falling/

ยซIn a tale of sales success breeding resentment, computer companies are wary of the new breed of computers because their low price could threaten PC makersโ€™ already thin profit margins. [โ€ฆ] โ€œWhen I talk to PC vendors, the No. 1 question I get is, how do I compete with these netbooks when what we really want to do is sell PCs that cost a lot more money?โ€ said J. P. Gownder, an analyst with Forrester Research."ยป

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/21/technology/21pc.html

"Some analysts believe that netbooks will outsell laptops at some point."

Which analyst firms? And what do you mean by 'at some point'?

ยซWe expect the mini-note PC market to settle at approximately 16% share of the notebook PC market by 2011.ยป

www.displaysearch.com/cps/rde/xchg/displaysearch/hs.xsl/Strong_mini_note_shipments_buoy_notebook_PC_Market_Q3_08.asp

Apple is a bit player and always will be

The Apple lemonade stand is doing great, why should they offer other products? After all, not everyone is sophisticated and wealthy enough to buy a Cadillac, but GM is doing well. :)

Seriously, I think Apple clearly has a niche market strategy and absolutely no dream of a Mac on every desk.

And that's great, because Microsoft is on a long slide into oblivion. MOST netbooks run XP but that's bad because (1) Microsoft makes hardly any money on these licenses. And (2), it takes a lot of green to feed an 800-pound gorilla--look at the music player market. iPod's are a big hit for Apple, but even if the Zune were equally popular, that would be fairly small change for Microsoft. The commoditization of computing means that Microsoft's salad days are over. Apple products will compete nicely as high-end alternatives to cheap Linux devices.