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Why don’t women speak out? ‘We are damned if we do, and damned if we don't’

The ongoing discussion of a vendor's use of scantily-clad women to attract attention to its booth at last month's Gartner Symposium/ITXpo following my Editor's Notes on the subject has yielded some intriguing points of view. One of the questions I raised in the original column was why more people didn't speak out against the practice during the event and its immediate aftermath. Rita Thissen, an IT manager in Chapel Hill, N.C., wrote to express her view on why women tend not to speak out against this sort of thing, and I found her explanation to be enlightening, if sobering. Here's what she had to say:

Why don't women immediately speak out against such nonsense? There are lots of answers for that one:

1. Recently published research and plenty of non-scientific evidence show that women who speak up suffer for it. A woman who complains is a whiner. One who gets angry is a bitch. One who protests is being unladylike, or humorless, or taking things too personally. We are damned if we do, and damned if we don't.

2. Complaining can backfire in more ways than social disapproval. Women who speak up against "perceived injustice" are then type-cast as either one-issue feminists, trouble-makers or unreliable. It's the old problem of the whistle-blower. Women in technical roles have complained at one time or another, with unsatisfying and possibly damaging results.

3. We're tired of battling endlessly. The few women at ITXpo probably have had to put up with much worse already. In the IT world (as in chemistry and other male-dominated domains), women who have been successful have developed coping mechanisms which helped them get to and stay in their current positions. Perhaps they have thick skin. Perhaps they can grin and bear it. Perhaps they can ignore it. They have to choose which fights to fight, because they are likely to encounter insulting or offensive situations frequently. One cannot fight them all. When one does fight, it's likely to be unpleasant. Some of us get tired of fighting.

4. It's painful and difficult, as you found out from the responses to your column.

5. Some of us "forgive" the offense, on the grounds that no harm was intended.

There are more reasons, but I'd guess those are the top ones.

In my 18 years in the field of IT, I have personally been grabbed, petted, subjected to physical comments, made fun of for objecting to sexual innuendo, kissed on top of the head (I am short), been called "girl"/"sweetheart"/"honey"/"pretty thing"/"young lady" (at the age of 50+) and various other demeaning or belittling terms, followed home from work, asked for sex at work, and on and on and on. It's tiresome. Do I speak up? Sometimes, yes, and then people call me ornery. In the past, I have protested to department stores, school principals, managers, marketers and vendors. Generally, I get more grief than I can give, and rarely does it do any good. Once in awhile, I "win" a battle, such as requiring a (male) co-worker to stop displaying women's panties as trophies on Monday mornings at work (1995). But sometimes I do not speak up about public things like the ITXpo exhibit, for all the reasons listed above. Fortunately, I currently work in a place that has many women in computing positions, and that has an environment of respect. Plus, I'm senior enough now that I outrank most of the men around me. So now I mostly speak up for others who carry less clout.

I applaud you for writing the original column and the follow-up remarks. Keep speaking up about injustices and indignities when you can. The ones who benefit the most are the ones who are not in a position to defend themselves.

Perhaps now a male IT professional will write in to explain why men tend not to speak out against the nonsense.

What People Are Saying

Self-centered behaviour & Victorian morality

For those who feel that it matters; I am 40 something, male, an IT professional, have been married for 20 years, have only been married once, and have a teen age daughter.

As I wasn't there to see the attire being characterized as inappropriate, I can't say with certainty how I would have reacted.

With all of that said, I seriously doubt I would have been offended or felt anything but sad for people who were offended.

There is nothing fundamentally unhealthy or socially destructive in the act of appreciating or displaying the human form. It could only be wrong if it were done around or involving minors who may not be capable of understanding the context. I doubt that the symposium was attended by very many 9 year olds, and it would certainly seem reasonable to assume the audience would all be legally (if not emotionally) mature adults.

If the "ring girls" were there against their will, if they were being abused, then I would do quite a bit more than just speak out (and believe that more that just speaking out would be required morally). Since nothing like that was mentioned in either column, I have to conclude that wasn't the case. Apparently the "ring girls" didn't need to be defended.

From the tone of the columns I am left with the impression that both authors believe , in effect, that seeing women in a string bikinis and high heels forces you to treat them (and by extension all other women) like objects. For once, let's place responsibility where it belongs. The observer is responsible for their perception and actions, not the woman in the bikini or the business that hired her to appear in one.

It is abundantly clear that far too many people so wish to blame anyone but themselves for their own actions that they have even developed the habit of blaming the actions of others on third party causes. When a burglar can sue a home owner and be awarded $500,000 by a jury when the burglar trapped themselves in a garage for 8 days during the commission of a crime, there is something fundamentally wrong with the way we are assigning responsibility.

I have pity and contempt for anyone who; would treat another thinking feeling being as an object, would make unwelcome physical contact with another person (without significant justification), would take advantage of power/position/authority/situation to force another person to endure discomfort or abuse. But there are a few things we would all do well to keep in mind. We cannot be degraded by the words and actions of another unless we value that person's opinion above our own. We can not be used (and thus should not feel used) by someone unless we allow them to use us. If you are forced into anything then you are a victim, but the perpetrator is the one who has been reduced, your worth remains unchanged.

The only difference between the word fornicate and it's 4 letter equivalent is the emotional reaction you have to it. If someone is uncomfortable with a word, then it is only polite to not use it in conversation with them. It is reasonable for them to expect that you won't use that word in conversation with them. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to use the word in conversation with others. Certainly you shouldn't shout it in an area you know they're in, but you shouldn't need to look around and whisper it either.

If none of us could do or say anything which might upset or offend someone else, who may happen to catch a glimps or overhear, we wouldn't be able to do or say anything at all.

Respect for the people around you needs to go both ways. Lack of respect for another's right to do, act, and interact with others in what ever ways are mutually acceptable to those involved is the real problem we should all be trying to solve.

Thank you. For all of us. In

Thank you. For all of us. In every field.

Why Don't women speak out?

I wrote the blog entry (that Don submitted for me, as it originally was an email to him) entitled "Attitudes toward female professionals: A unique perspective."

As a male who has been 'somewhat enlightened' by having a partner who has been tremendously successful. I've always thought it ironic that this problem always results in women going to conferences to discuss ways to deal with male attitude issues, many of which you listed in your note above. The irony (although it's a sad irony) is that women already 'get it', it's the men who don't and most corporations leave the men to figure this out on their own. And what we're seeing is that generally men don't lift a finger to try to figure this out.

One positive that came of my partner's Women's conference speech, and it would be good to try this elsewhere, was to go to Harvard Business Review and request copies of the "Women and the Labyrinth of Leadership" and then pass them to all your peers and one level up and down from your peer level. A female peer of my partner did that and received very positive reactions, including from the men, many of whom told her that "they had no idea" that their actions were so far off base.

I'm a strong believer in educating people to see what it's like through someone else's lens (or viewpoint), so encourage either your diversity team (if you have one) or HR to push this kind of education to the men, as statistics are starting to show a strong correlation between accepting cultures and strong business performance.

Good luck to you.

idiocy

The guy who displayed panties on Monday morning should have been ask very loudly, "In which Goodwill Store did you buy those?"