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Why good people make bad OS choices

I was looking for a mini-notebook the other day for my mom-in-law at a Best Buy when I happened to hear a senior sales guy telling a newbie the 411 on selling PCs. "You sell them either Vista, or, if you have to, point them to the Macs because those computers work. That XP stuff is old junk and Linux doesn't work."

Oh did I have words with him! And, as I talked with him, once more I was reminded about the difference between a used car salesman and a computer salesman: the used car salesman knows when he's lying.

As our conversation continued I discovered that while he knew many people were unhappy with their Vista PC purchases -- he told me most of them complained about older software and hardware incompatibilities -- Vista was still the newest operating system so, it was, somehow, the best.

And, this mind you, was from someone who've I seen selling PCs at this particular store for more than five years. If this is what experienced sales help is like, God help poor customers who come in and just want a good computer for their money.

It wasn't that this guy was shilling for Microsoft. It was that he really didn't know any better. With help like this is it any wonder why good people make bad operating system choices?

So, since you can't depend on the help, here is my three-step guide for people who don't know a thing about computers, but want to buy a good one. Don't think for a second that this is a comprehensive guide on how to buy a PC, it's not. This is just the basics for people whose main interest is to go in to a store or Web site and get good value for their computer bucks.

1) Are the only things you do with your computer is play simple games like solitaire, mahjong, and minesweeper; browse the Web; and write e-mails, IM, and letters? Then ask for a Linux-powered mini-notebook or, as they're often called, netbook. For further information on those see Dan Nystedt's How to buy minilaptop.

For my mother-in-law, I picked her up an ASUS Eee 900A, which runs Xandros Linux for, with sales tax, just over $300. She loves it and she's been reading the Miami Herald news using Firefox and playing solitaire like a fiend for the last day and a half.

It, like any Linux system, also has the advantage that, for all practical purposes, she doesn't have to worry about viruses, malware, or keeping the programs up to date that she'd have to have on a Windows machine.

2) Do you need the above and also need a particular program, like say Quicken or Photoshop? Before rushing out to buy a computer, check to see if your program is available on a Mac or if it has a work-alike version on Linux.

For example, you can get both Quicken and Photoshop on Macs. Yes, Macs tend to cost most and sometimes there are compatibility problems. For instance, I was recently ticked off to find that Quicken for Mac can't use Quicken for Windows files. You have to go through an annoying conversion process to get the Mac version to read the Windows versions. With the exception of oddball problems like this, I've found that Macs deliver value for the money. A Mac, in my experience, is easier for most people to use.

As for Linux, oddly enough GnuCash does a better job of working with Quicken for Windows files than Quicken for Mac does. Who knew?

GIMP, the best-known of the Linux photo-manipulation programs, while good, doesn't look or feel much like Adobe Photoshop. The moral of the story is that while Linux or Mac is probably a good choice for you, you should check to make sure that your one special program, or its equivalent, will work well for you on the alternative operating system. For Macs, check at your software vendors' Web site. For Linux, look to the Open Source as Alternative site for information,

3) I use programs that are only available on Windows or I really don't want to switch.

You don't have to. Just don't make the mistake of going to Vista. I mean, come on, even Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer says to skip Vista.

You have two choices. First, you could buy a mini-notebook with XP Home, such as those from Acer, Asus, HP and Sylvania. Most of these also offer a Linux alternative. Or, you can order a laptop or PC from Dell, HP or any of the other major vendors with XP Professional. If you're working in a business, and I can't talk you into Linux or a Mac, you really need to order an XP Pro system. The XP Home machines are cheaper, but they won't work or play well on corporate networks.

Microsoft had planned to shut down XP Pro sales, but business computer users forced them to keep selling XP Pro.

The reason? XP works well, Vista doesn't. So, if you're a business Windows user, and you can't give it up Windows, order a PC with XP SP3 from your favorite vendor. Despite customer demand, Microsoft refuses to let XP Pro be sold pre-installed in stores.

OK, this isn't a lot of information, I know, but with this alone you're going to be a lot better off than most ordinary Joes -- or salesmen - when it comes to buying the right PC with the right operating system. Good luck and good shopping.

What People Are Saying

Thats the point

Yes a lot of people don't know what Package Manager is. The terms, language, symbols, communications between the user and the operating system are completely alien between the different communities. A lot of people won't put the kind of re-learning effort it requires to use a different operating system. They want a simple, intuitive interface.
It really doesn't matter to them that the disk speed is slighlty faster or slower as long as the system works without havimg to invest a substantial amount in the re-learning curve

It's not hard to learn

Hate to break it to you guy, but linux has gotten pretty simple. Furthermore, it's not hard to learn. I'm not talking about using a shell. Using a desktop enviroment like gnome or kde. To say that linux is hard to use is just ignorant. I personally use linux. Only time I decide to use Windows is when I want to play game that I can only get for Windows.

So now I'm going to state a couple of facts

1. A WORKING linux system is far more stable than Windows.

2. Can't say it's faster than Windows...Well I can actually. Why you ask? Well it manages resources better and doesn't have all those services running in the background.

So let me say this. I have worked on a few Window systems, and I found One thing to be true. Most computers screw up because of inexperienced users.
So there is really nothing for them to relearn if they don't know how to use what they currently have.

my mom and package manager

>I could be wrong, but comments like these >usually >come from people how don't now what a >package >manager is..

Boy that reminds me of the mistake I made showing my mom who is in her seventies and wanted a computer of her own, how to add games from her PCLinuxOS.
She installed EVERY game she found.
Ok, it wasnt a mistake... more of a surprise but mom takes notes and knows how to follow instructions. But she still has no idea what a package manager is even though she abused hers.

I guess my mum who has been using a computer less than a year is well versed in geeky hassles as is my dad who used Windows for a decade after he retired before asking me to have a desktop like mine (eye candy!!). If they qualify as geeks, then the term has lost all meaning. My 7 year old is a true geek who knows how to install a Linux dual-boot (all you do is press Enter, Enter, Enter, Enter, Enter, Enter and Enter on PCLinuxOS)

I think all the people ive seen over the past summer sporting Acer One's and even Dell Mini's now can hardly be classified as geeks (my wife's friends, sisters, cousins and so on is about 8 netbooks) and we can let that canular rest for good, Linux is ready for mass consumption and from what I saw from the Mini 9 and Acer One dummified interfaces, it is easy and intuitive.
Whether it is for a 7 year old or his 77 year old grandparents.

THIS MAN IS A GENUS

I ARGREE HOLEHARTEDLY WIDNOWS IS THE BEST WAY TO RUIN YOUR COPUTRER OUR IT TECH PUT WINDWOWS UBUTNU ON MY LAPTROP AND IT NEVER GVIVE ME ANY PORBLEMS ANYMNORE

I guess he didn't install

I guess he didn't install spell check along with the Ubuntu.

Re: It's Vista for me....

Nice examples to try and persuade your trollish viewpoint.

Did you ever stop to think the reason that google released chrome for Windows only (at first), is because Google is smart enough to realize that Windows was the only OS that still is in need of a browser upgrade?

So follow me here..... VistaSP1 comes out right ?!?!?!? A year after, the several year delayed final version, a Service Pack 1 for Vista comes out! And your relishing in the fact that Vista finally begins to work? It should with the millions of beta-testers that got messed over, and when I say beta-testers I mean customers who bought in to the Vista Revolution. They trusted that Microsoft actually was delivering a complete, working OS that they paid them for. When you pay for an OS like that, you shouldn't have the tons of horror stories you can find all over the Web describing hardware incompatibilities and software discrepancies.

Windows Apps run on windows.... Let me see you install Microsoft Outlook 2000 on Vista.... denied! Do you think that Microsoft is looking out for all of their users, by preventing them from installing MS Office 2000 apps that are no longer "supported", How else would they get anyone to upgrade to the next version unless they force them to in this subtle manner...? Sure they have No VESTED interest in you upgrading.. the sole purpose would be to ensure you have a SECURE operating system environment, which shouldn't require you to upgrade your word processing software to achieve.

Do you hear yourself? Do you even believe what your saying?

With all of your vast knowledge on how everything works, it's no wonder you make clueless statements like Linux has "an inferior library of available applications, and has an inferior ecosystem".

Can you please step away from the dinner table, the adults are talking?

Anonymous on October 20, 2008 - 12:58 P.M.

You rock!! Extremely well-put.

Eco-what?

"Windows has the best and largest library of available applications, and the largest ecosystem."

You must mean largest ecosystem of malware and virii. Great selling point.

We're not hysterical, we don't use Vista.

Do you get cold hiding under that bridge?

Grass Roots Marketing

Didn't Microsoft bail out Apple a while back by buying a stake in the company?

If this arrangement is still in place, then buying a MAC is supporting Windows through the back door.

Whenever I go shopping I carry around my trusty Linux laptop, boot up a Virtual machine running Mandrive KDE or Ubuntu GNOME for whatever mood I'm in, and show the sales people (we get a lot of women in PC shops here in OZ), what it can do.

I have the GIMP and gimpshop installed to show those photoshop "experts" how easy it is to make it work like the other one.

I have wine running with some Windows shareware, one is a super ease of use sound recorder using VST filters, which really hits home.

And I show them MythTV running live HDTV shows.

Lastly if they build PCs I use the VM to demo a CD install, leave them the CD and come back in a week to see a super cheap "student" system for sale out front.

Guess what it is running.