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Why openSUSE 11 is the Linux for me

Recently, my colleague James Turner reviewed openSUSE 11 and he liked it. It's hard to tell from some of the notes he got back -- shame on you people! -- but he really did.

I, on the other hand, love openSUSE 11 and since Warren Woodford, the developer behind MEPIS, has had to put his great Debian-based Linux distribution on the back-burner for now, openSUSE 11 has become The Linux distribution as far as I'm concerned.

Why? Well, for me, openSUSE is easy to install. Yes, you need to decide if you want to use LVM (Logical Volume Manager) for storage, and that is a mysterious question for new users. But, as Turner points out, all you need do is click on the default choice instead and in a few minutes you're in business.

There's this myth about how hard desktop Linux is to install on a PC. I honestly can't think of a single time in the last three years and dozens of Linux distributions that I've had to know anything, about Linux to get it working. My only decision has been whether to blow away the existing Windows hard drive partition or leave it alone. That's not much of a technical decision. After that, I just do something else while the CD or DVD spins around for half-an-hour or so. Then, I reboot, add in a user name and password, if I hadn't done that before and I start using the system. No fuss, no muss.

Getting a Linux desktop to work just right will take more time. But, frankly, I've had to spend a lot more time -- say 16-months with Vista -- to get Windows working properly. Yesterday, for example, Vista suddenly announced that its trust-relationship with AD (Active Directory) was broken and refused to allow me to login to my system. I fixed it, a story I'll save for another day, but suffice it to say for now that I had to resort to one of the most downright oddball network client fixes I've ever used.

That's a good lead in to another reason why I like openSUSE. YaST, the master administration tool, as Turner said, can be quirky. On the other hand, it's a graphical menu-driven system. Even if you don't know it, you can menu your way to where you need to go without much trouble. There's nothing inherently trickier about it than Microsoft's MMC (Microsoft Management Console).

MMC is a good comparison to YaST because openSUSE can be used both as a desktop and as a server. OpenSUSE can do anything and, as a result, its management tools give you access to places most desktop users will never need to go. I like that power that all Linux distributions have and, in openSUSE, Novell makes a point of making all of that easily available to users. I can certainly see how it could also intimidate some users.

Of course, you don't need to see just how much you can do with openSUSE if you don't want to. It comes with a choice of multiple desktop systems and their corresponding applications. The main three choices are KDE 3.5x, GNOME 2.2.x and, KDE 4.0x, which I think isn't ready for prime time. You can use the other, less common Linux desktops, but if you go with either KDE 3.5x or GNOME, you'll be fine.

Both main interfaces give you access to all the applications you're ever likely to use and are nicely polished and functional. I have no trouble running Linux applications, which is more than Vista users can say. Talk about a bad joke of an operating system. Microsoft can't even get its own Vista Compatibility Center up and running! I don't have to put Windows down in favor of Linux; Microsoft is doing a great job of promoting desktop Linux all on its own.

There are many other things that openSUSE gives me that any Linux distribution, such as Ubuntu, can also give me. For example, there's security. If you run Windows, you must also run anti-malware and anti-viral software. I haven't spent a dime on either one for Linux because I don't need to. There have never been any significant Linux malware or viral programs. And, please, none of that "That's only because no one targets Linux because it's not popular." Linux runs Google, Yahoo, and thousands of other major Web sites. If you wanted to do some serious damage to users, and you could do it by easily breaking Linux, it would be done by now.

Face facts: Windows is a patchwork of security fixes and holes. Linux is a brick-wall. You can break either one, but Windows gets ripped open on a daily basis. Linux doesn't.

Taken all-in-all, power, control of that power, choices of interfaces, and security, desktop Linux is clearly the better choice. And, for me, for today, openSUSE 11 is the best of the best.

What People Are Saying

OpenSUSE 11 finicky

I'm glad to hear of some who had good luck with openSUSE 11. I did not have such good luck. The install ran perfectly but when I rebooted the monitor went blank and reported no signal. I hate to hard boot a running linux box, but that's what I had to do and restarting in failsafe mode got me to the desktop. Durring install the network came up perfectly but after install finished, I did not even see an eth0. I manually started the network with Yast but did not get a default gateway or net mask until I manually put those in. VNC server also failed to configure via Yast - out of the box. I'll be experimenting with that tonight. Compared to Fedora and Ubuntu, I found the applications menus awfully large, but that is probably a configurable option. Fedora took a little tweaking, and Ubuntu seemed to work great right out of the box for me, but the systems were not all identical hardware so my experience could well be an unfair comparison. This was just my experience with openSUSE.

Multimedia Pack for OpenSuse 11

I have created a Multimedia Pack portable for Open Suse 11, the included programs and codecs are:

1) kchmviewer
2) mplayer, mplayer plugin
3) audacious
4) k3b, k3b-codecs
5) sox
6) devede
7) audacity
8) avidemux
9) ffmpeg
10) transcode
11) ntfs-config
12) vlc
13) libdvdcss
14) w32codecs
15) xine
16) xmms
17) dvdShrink
18) k9copy
19) Gtkpod
20) Acetoneiso
21) Furiousiso
22) DVD::RIP
23) Amarok
24) Kaffeine
25) kmplayer
26) Kdvdcreator
27) K3guitune
28) Kdvdauth
29) DVDAuthorWizard
30) Kguitar
31) Mjpegtools
32) Soundconverter
33) Gdvdcreator
34) Asunder
35) Brasero
36) Smplayer
37) LMMS
38) winff
39) KmediaFactory
40) DVD2Xvid

you can install any of the above without internet, they include all the dependencies, just unzip the both files into a folder named MMP2008 and create a repository from that folder as a simple rpm folder in yast, then make a search in the yast installer with the name of the program and check it to install it, this is very important if you don`t have internet at home, and besides, by default Open Suse doesn`t include several codecs due to license matters.

You can download the pack at:

http://easgs.wordpress.com/category/multimedia-pack-2008-for-open-suse-11/

Those mirrors!

My biggest problem with opensuse 11 is that apparently novell has a system that automatically redirects repositiry downloads to a "well-placed" mirror from a generic URL in YAST This means that the online repositories are already setup in YAST when you install, and that's good. Unfortunately, there's a downside, I found myself linked to a mirror that must have been tortuously overtaxed, and many of my downloads were taking place at the sub-sub-dialup rate of around 700-900 B/S.!

At first, nothing on opensuse.org seemed to lead me to a non-generic url for opensuse installation sources. Fortunately, the old list mirror list still exists for opensuse 11

http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Released_Version

I added the OSS repository from kernel.org, and I'm downloading at a much more favorable rate, about 250 times faster! And all is well. I nearly went back to Ubuntu. I switched back to opensuse because I paid 40 dollars for a book on SUSE last year, and I was going to read it, so I might as well run it!

Nice Review

Hi Steven,

I always enjoy your articles on Linux. Always unbiased and just straightforward. I currently use Kubuntu and have to say between Kubuntu and Mepis (another distro I recommend) and OpenSuse 11 I went back to Kubuntu every time. The reason is quite simple in my case. Mepis needs an update but the sharing of folders for my windows network was very nice and the remote desktop settings work well in both Mepis and Kubuntu. I had alot of issues with OpenSuse 11 running the KDE 3.5X desktop. I VNC from work to home and it was by far the least stable for this purpose. The menus and installation were by far superior and make a great desktop for anyone wanting to run Linux. But for me Kubuntu is my choice because of the remote. *buntu has made alot of strides in recent releases and is hard to beat. If the remote desktop worked properly I would have stayed on OpenSuse. But for now Kubuntu is for me!!!

JC

MS, Real Newbies, YAST, and Whatever

OpenSUSE maybe just the ticket to get power users weened off Microsoft, coupled with Novell's patent pledge, MS users probably feel licensed.

Real Newbies need to be held by the hand if the system is designed for power users. I can attest through 2 years of experience in building over 800 machines for real newbies that Ubuntu is preferred over openSUSE. And they don't care which desktop system they use although Ubuntu GNOME with its menus along the top they find logical and different enough from Windows to not be constrained by previous nervous system programming.

Even though all those extras can be packed onto a DVD, getting them over the Internet from the Ubuntu newbie Add/Remove interface is just as easy (who uses Automatix anymore?)

Yast is a good admin program, especially as it works in text mode. It is a wrapper for lots of separate utilities, and sometimes it is easier to call these instead.

The problem with creating a GUI wrapper, is that the functionality of the individual parts has to fit the wrapper's look and feel, and may lose functions or developments that would make them more useful because of it.

I prefer the old UNIX philosophy of each utility doing only one task and being excellent at it with every option needed. The Ubuntu approach of putting a menu round these utilities seems a better approach especially in light of the continual development of all Linux distros.

Whatever the Distro you are using at the moment, there are usually versions of all applications created in your preferred package, be it rpm, deb, tgz, or as a squashfs module. If you are a power user, you can compile or write your own with the much much extended development programmer's workbench.
Once the Linux user gets into real networking with their own static IP, they can explore real computer uses, like DJing, VJing, PJing, Blog Chatting, and anything else where users supply the real or delayed time content, and Linux supplies the robust real time server Whatever the Distro.

Kubuntu vs OpenSUSE

OK, flame war on!

I used to use Kubuntu. Then the constant problems resulting from Canonical's poor QA practices and tendency to release utilities and applications that were not ready for prime time forced me to dump it.

I'm not a geek that likes tweaking the internals of my OS. I want it to work quietly and well, unlike Windows. Kubuntu didn't measure up.

I switched to OpenSUSE. The only problems I've had with that is the occasional screwup in their package updater system. (Why can't ANY distro get package management under control? None of them do a perfect job.) That and the occasional Konqueror crash when moving PDF files, something I suspect is a KDE issue upstream.

Plus I dislike the "dumbed down Windows" approach Canonical takes to Linux. OpenSUSE comes with a very good selection of software out of the box. You don't spend an hour after installing it going to Synaptic or using Automatix and installing stuff that should have been there in the first place. I have to install some things that most distros don't put in automatically, but it's less on OpenSUSE.

I also like that OpenSUSE knows the difference between root and normal users, as Linux has until Canonical decided to blur the functions, again in an attempt to "dumb down like Windows."

There's nothing seriously wrong with the (x)buntus that a little more QA and care would fix. But a distro cannot both be cutting edge and safe for new users - and Kubuntu tries to be both to its detriment.

For new users, I'd recommend Mandriva or OpenSUSE over the (x)buntus. And for power users, OpenSUSE is the way to go.

All the nonsense about the Novell Microsoft deal is utterly irrelevant. As I predicted when the flame wars started about that last year, absolutely nothing has come of it. Microsoft has not sued the Linux community. Novell has not gone out of business. In fact, has seen its business grow because of their increased interoperability with Windows. Nobody cares, and rightfully so, because it was a non-issue.

I'm always a bit nervous when a new release comes out, and I'll be holding off upgrading to version 11 for a few months. And I'm definitely not touching KDE 4.x until it's feature complete and the bugs are out. But I'd recommend anybody installing 10.3 now and moving to 11 soon.

YAST? That's all you got?

I appreciate you. I really do. Plus, you know, which "Linux" is just a personal preference. It's not as critical as choosing between Win, OSX or Open software (Suse, Kubuntu etc..). I would say try them both or try Kubuntu last. The thing is, while your point about a new user liking the GUI YAST is valid, it's not as needed as it once was. If one is so new, then they probably don't want the super complex server settings. GUI or not.

The thing is, I think Kubuntu's "System Settings", GUI(OSX look-a-like) control panel is more friendly. Then, as you know, Kubuntu is no slouch for advanced and "power" uses (and users.)

Now, don't miss understand what I am about to say next. Because, I'm all for making a smoother transition for Window converts (or just add on dual booters.) I also like to see everything in a GUI, because that doesn't take away from simple and fast terminal use, if desired. You see, the newbie has been trained (by MS) that the command line is backwards, and only for programmers. While you never really need to see the CLI (Command line interface) with Linux, in "Linux"(systems), it is a positive, not a negative thing. In fact, it's so positive that Microsoft has recently adopted many of it's features on the Windows command line.

The bottom line is YAST isn't enough to pull me away from the many other Kubuntu positives. I don't feel the need for YAST and I do most things in the GUI on Kubuntu. This is another reason I recommend Kubuntu. I your judging by Ubuntu's system menus then that's not the same look and feel as Kubuntu great "System Settings". I think a newbie would prefer it. As a long time user now, I sure do.

Also, if there's any more suited distribution (Bundle) than the new user friendly Kubuntu; for an advanced and/or custom adaptation then I don't know what it would be.

There's just no getting around having the most users. A well maintained distro with the most people to report and enhance, wins. Whether it's Ubuntu or Kubuntu I don't know. Remember at the core, they are one. They are definitely the most popular.

Then there's the package management systems. Arguably, Kubuntu is much more flexible within release upgrades. Then over time, as you stay in that release tier until you want to (managed dist-)upgrade (As I believe in clean installs.) I think Kubuntu does a better job upgrading.

OpenSUSE 10.3 is my pick!

I have an Acer 1640 series laptop and everything works the way I want it to with 10.3 version of openSUSE whereas last 2 versions of Ubuntu, Mandriva and their relations have had problems with the display (big font syndrome). OpenSuse 11.0 works OK in Live-CD mode but I am not interested in changing a well configured machine just for package management speed enhancements. OpenSUSE 10.3 still has a lot of life cycle support left, aprrox 15 mths more. IMO, an OS install should last at least a couple of years.

Cheers

10.3 didn't work well for me.

So far, openSuse 11.0 is the best working distro on my Dell Precision m90. 11.0 was the first time I actually did not have to go into a console as root to finish setting up the install the way I like. (I'm not counting third parts extras, such as Vmware Workstation, that require installation in a shell as root.)

10.2 came in second place -- there were a couple of niggly things that had to be tweaked by root.

10.3 doesn't like the M90 much. The quirks and odd things wrong with it were like a huge step backwards to version 9.1.

YMMV

Free use of intellectual property

Yes its wonderful. You get to be a parasite and use other people's intellectual property without paying for it. Its irrelevant that its under the GPL. If anyone's intellectual property so much as even touches it, it becomes no different from public domain. Its price becomes free to any and all who ask for it because they must give away their source code AND documtation.

Hence, its not freedom for those who create intellectual property for a living. Its nothing but slavery. However, that was the intent of the creators of the GPL. They objected to the notion of capitalism, the market of property, and property rights themselves. They intended to get everything for the giving of next to nothing.

Its not even "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need". Its those of ability give give all and those who merely want, get get all.

Its worse than a cancer. Its the embodiment of the entropy beast that sucks all life out of the universe.